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    Default "AR" doesn't equal Assault Rifle?!

    I thought we all in the gun community were one on this?!

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    Default Re: "AR" doesn't equal Assault Rifle?!

    AR was the prefix that Armalite added to all model numbers for guns they developed and didn't stand for 'assault rifle'. The AR-17 for example, was a shotgun. I'm not sure that 'assault rifle' was even a term when the AR-10 saw the light of day.

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    Default Re: "AR" doesn't equal Assault Rifle?!

    Quote Originally Posted by oafpatroll View Post
    I'm not sure that 'assault rifle' was even a term when the AR-10 saw the light of day.
    Especially seeing as it isn't one.
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    Default Re: "AR" doesn't equal Assault Rifle?!

    In the same way that AI stands for Assault Idiots.
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    Default Re: "AR" doesn't equal Assault Rifle?!

    Does the term "assault rifle" have a fixed meaning, or particular history?

    The Germans did have a "Sturmgewehr".

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    Default Re: "AR" doesn't equal Assault Rifle?!

    Unfortunately that is how IWI markets the FA on their website as well, don't understand why they didn't just market it as a "Bullpup Rifle" as that is exactly what it is.

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    Default Re: "AR" doesn't equal Assault Rifle?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ds J View Post
    Does the term "assault rifle" have a fixed meaning, or particular history?

    The Germans did have a "Sturmgewehr".
    As I have it the STG's were the first 'assault rifles'. The two primary criteria being an intermediate calibre chambering (8 kurz in it's case) as opposed to a full fat battle rifle one (e.g. the 8mm Mauser it was derived from) and select fire capability.

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    Default Re: "AR" doesn't equal Assault Rifle?!

    Can someone please explain this to Ian Cameron...

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    Default Re: "AR" doesn't equal Assault Rifle?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Branden88 View Post
    Unfortunately that is how IWI markets the FA on their website as well, don't understand why they didn't just market it as a "Bullpup Rifle" as that is exactly what it is.

    https://iwi.net/iwi-x95/
    Being a bullpup doesn't stop it being an assault rifle but it still can't be an AR-xx.

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    Default Re: "AR" doesn't equal Assault Rifle?!

    Quote Originally Posted by oafpatroll View Post
    AR was the prefix that Armalite added to all model numbers for guns they developed and didn't stand for 'assault rifle'. The AR-17 for example, was a shotgun. I'm not sure that 'assault rifle' was even a term when the AR-10 saw the light of day.
    Exactly how I had it until if found the above... FA manufacturers being their own worst enemy?

    But does it turn into a "DR" when I use it for self Defence? Seems as if it only works one way...

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