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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusT View Post
    I agree, and that's why I think I'll wait and save for the Garmin unit. If you haven't seen them, they seem to be what the labradar should have been. Lets hope they don't cost the same.

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    There is a garmin unit advertised on the Safari and Outdoor app. R18k! Although i smell a rat…


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    I like the look of that one, and good to see its a "keeper". New Rifles are expensive. A Howa action seems cheap (max 15K) , but by the time you add stock, scope, suppressor, dies, mods, brass, bag etc, It passes 40K in a flash!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Againstthegrains View Post
    I like the look of that one, and good to see its a "keeper". New Rifles are expensive. A Howa action seems cheap (max 15K) , but by the time you add stock, scope, suppressor, dies, mods, brass, bag etc, It passes 40K in a flash!
    This is true. However, this was the only way to afford a "precision chassis rifle" as the majority of the ones available start at 50 to 60k. Scopes etc still needs to be bought then.

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    I agree, I was looking at the Tikka's in varmint barrel, and they all start at 2x the cost of the Howa's and there is no guarantee that the barreled actions will perform better. From what I can deduce from a small sample size of friends who have invested in both platforms, the chances of getting a good rifle or a dud are about the same with both brands. What is new on the budget rifle scene are the Bergara rifles, that have taken on the budget rifle sphere in the USA by storm. It's basically a Rem700 action with a Bergara barrel, all made in Spain, supposedly better quality than those made by Remington itself. There are a few available locally, but the brand still flies under the radar.

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    An update. We visited a friends farm in early december. He built a 900m range so we stretched the rifles legs a bit, but not too much. It was really nice shooting on a private range and being able to take your time.

    I used strelok to calculate elevation correction and it was only 2 clicks out at 500m. I was able to hit a 12inch going without issues, and the kids also really enjoyed the rifle.

    I had a try at shooting a group and below is the results. It was really hot on the day and the mirage was quite bad, at times it looked like the target was switching off and on, if that makes sense. I managed a 120mm group at the 500m, which fornme is not bad. Two of the shots were less than 25mm apart.

    Next steps: I still need a chrono, still waiting to see what the garmin will cost here. When that realises, Ill play with seating depths etc. I am also considering the trigger upgrade offered by Arms.




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    If you got on target at 500m you can relatively closely calculate your velocity. You say you were 2 clicks out, make a note of the exact elevation, then adjust velocity in Strelok until it matches the elevation. With the 300PRC I found I sometimes needed to adjust velocity or bullet BC to match the Strelok dial. Since I have a Magnetospeed near permanently mounted, it's obviously easier to true the exact dial to impact point on Strelok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pblaauw View Post
    If you got on target at 500m you can relatively closely calculate your velocity. You say you were 2 clicks out, make a note of the exact elevation, then adjust velocity in Strelok until it matches the elevation. With the 300PRC I found I sometimes needed to adjust velocity or bullet BC to match the Strelok dial. Since I have a Magnetospeed near permanently mounted, it's obviously easier to true the exact dial to impact point on Strelok.
    I tried to calculate the velocity this way, but I got an unrealistic result. It was in the region of 2750 fps which would result in a very high pressure reading in quickload. The BC I got from the web for the 139gr scenar OTMs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusT View Post
    I tried to calculate the velocity this way, but I got an unrealistic result. It was in the region of 2750 fps which would result in a very high pressure reading in quickload. The BC I got from the web for the 139gr scenar OTMs.
    It's not unrealistic. I have a load I run with Norma URP and 140gn ELD-M's that clocks in at 2800fps, but I have to use small rifle primer brass. It's not a load I recommend to anyone, it's hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pblaauw View Post
    It's not unrealistic. I have a load I run with Norma URP and 140gn ELD-M's that clocks in at 2800fps, but I have to use small rifle primer brass. It's not a load I recommend to anyone, it's hot.
    I see, what pressure does that get you?

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    63600psi, 2799FPS, ES of 10, SD of 5.5 last time I tested.. *DO NOT REPLICATE!! *

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