Bondi Beach Mass shooting in Australia

[Adoons]

Have seen the video of the disarming. The "Good guy" had time and opportunity to shoot the the unarmed attacker. He did not. He pointed the shotgun at the attacker, but did not shoot. Now I see comments about him being an idiot for not killing the attacker. IMO it is not fair comment. In the RSA context shooting the, by then, unarmed attacker with his own rifle will land you in jail most probably. But the "Human" factor is far greater. I doubt that I myself would have shot the disarmed attacker. An armed one with my own SD firearm, no problem. Will do if needed.

And then in a follow up video the "Good guy" was shot in the arm and back later when the attacker went to a bridge where his son was, got another rifle and started a shootout with the "Good day." Maybe the son shot him? That is not clear. But not completely relevant.

And now I am asking myself: "What would be the right thing to do..."

Let him live to stay out of jail yourselves and get shot later? Or finish him of and spend all your time and money in court and probably in jail for being judge, jury and executor.

[Johann du Toit]

Prohibition has failed dismally when it comes to drugs, alcohol and prostitution, but somehow miraculously will work with firearms according to the braindead left.

"The war on drugs has failed, we should legalize drugs".
"The war on sex work has failed, we should legalize sex work".
The war on guns has failed, we should double down on gun bans".

Please explain that to me in a way that makes sense.

[griffin]

Have seen the video of the disarming. The "Good guy" had time and opportunity to shoot the the unarmed attacker. He did not. He pointed the shotgun at the attacker, but did not shoot. Now I see comments about him being an idiot for not killing the attacker. IMO it is not fair comment. In the RSA context shooting the, by then, unarmed attacker with his own rifle will land you in jail most probably. But the "Human" factor is far greater. I doubt that I myself would have shot the disarmed attacker. An armed one with my own SD firearm, no problem. Will do if needed.

And then in a follow up video the "Good guy" was shot in the arm and back later when the attacker went to a bridge where his son was, got another rifle and started a shootout with the "Good day." Maybe the son shot him? That is not clear. But not completely relevant.

And now I am asking myself: "What would be the right thing to do..."

Let him live to stay out of jail yourselves and get shot later? Or finish him of and spend all your time and money in court and probably in jail for being judge, jury and executor.

A tough situation for just about any person to shoot him or not to shoot him. Like reports said, the Dad had brought all his guns, who would know if he perhaps had other weapons on his person at the time of disarming. Also knowing the Dad may or may not have shot the hero from the bridge later, would that change things at all?


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[Tango Sierra]

I have little doubt that this will be the impetus for further firearms restrictions there.

Like they took a page out of the NZ playbook. After banning social media accounts for under 16's. I'm sure the law makers in the nanny state are salivating with a new bunch of laws and greater government control.

It is sad that innocent people have to pay the ultimate price, because of 2 people.

Unfortunately as is all too typical in this part of the world following a tragedy of this nature, politicians immediately target firearm laws because it's easier for them to look as if they're doing something whilst ignoring the actual problem. Too early in the day to say what's going to happen in Australia specifically but LFAO are bound to get rekt.

Here in NZ, The new Arms Act is currently before the Select Committee. The likes of Gun Control New Zealand will be certain to use this tragedy as a vehicle to advance their anti-firearm agenda which includes, among other things limits on the number of firearms that can be owned, deactivating collector firearms etc.

[ady]

Prohibition has failed dismally when it comes to drugs, alcohol and prostitution, but somehow miraculously will work with firearms according to the braindead left.

"The war on drugs has failed, we should legalize drugs".
"The war on sex work has failed, we should legalize sex work".
The war on guns has failed, we should double down on gun bans".

Please explain that to me in a way that makes sense.

The agenda is an unarmed citizenry. Whether the restrictions are a failure or not is of no concern. They don't want citizens to have firearms. Not just Straya, but globally and don't think politicians aren't involved in drug or sex money or paid to protect those that are.

Look locally. The Madlanga commission i think, is answering some questions from the Zondo commission and at the end of the day, we the law abiding citizens pay the price.

[NAZM357]

It was committed by a Pakistani dad and son team. The dad had 6 rifles and shotguns licensed to him. They used all of the guns in the attack. The civilian who bodied the attacker is a Christian Maronite from Lebanon.

The most braindead comment so far is that this proves you don't need a firearm to counter a firearm wielding attacker.

Are you referring to the guy that disarmed the attacker? Read he was a Muslim from Syria.

[Branden88]

Are you referring to the guy that disarmed the attacker? Read he was a Muslim from Syria.

What do we know about their backgrounds?

Sajid Akram arrived in Australia in 1998 on a student visa and transferred to a partner visa three years later, before becoming a permanent resident, according to Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke.

Indian police say he was originally from the southern Indian city of Hyderabad but had limited contact with his family in the country.

"The family members have expressed no knowledge of his radical mindset or activities, nor of the circumstances that led to his radicalisation," Telangana state police said in a statement.

In Australia, he held a gun licence for approximately a decade and had a gun club membership, Mr Lanyon said.

The younger suspect was an Australian-born citizen who first came to the attention of the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO) in October 2019, Mr Albanese told reporters.

Younger gunman was part of 2019 'investigation'
"He was examined on the basis of being associated with others and the assessment was made that there was no indication of any ongoing threat or threat of him engaging in violence," Mr Albanese said.

Mr Albanese said the suspect was investigated for six months over his connections to two people who later went to jail, one man for planning terror attacks.

He said he was not put on a watch list because the investigation uncovered no evidence that he was planning or considering any act of antisemitic violence.

Neither the father nor son have been on the ASIO's radar since the 7 October Hamas attacks, he added.

LINKS:

https://news.sky.com/story/what-we-k...ttack-13483604

[oafpatroll]

Some hard looking the other way there me thinks.

[Samizat45]

Are you referring to the guy that disarmed the attacker? Read he was a Muslim from Syria.

Yes, that is correct. A whole article on him in the Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...d-in-home-town

[KK20]

It was committed by a Pakistani dad and son team. The dad had 6 rifles and shotguns licensed to him. They used all of the guns in the attack. The civilian who bodied the attacker is a Christian Maronite from Lebanon.

The most braindead comment so far is that this proves you don't need a firearm to counter a firearm wielding attacker.

Paul, could you please confirm the source of this information you posted?

So far :
Boris Gurman, was Bondi resident .
Reuven Morrison also Melbourne resident.
Ahmed Al Ahmed reported in many places to be originally from Syria but Australian citizen and Sydney resident.

As far as the shooters background, the father was born in Hyderabad, INDIA resident of Australia. The son was Australian.