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    Default Re: Strange experiance buying ammo

    Quote Originally Posted by zguy View Post
    Oh, so on the actual card it can specify multiple calibers? Doesn't this depend on how the firearm is captured on the CFR's system and dealer sheet?
    Yes. My revolver shows 38spl/357mag under the caliber.

    If the DFO has an issue, then get a gunsmith report from a gunshop.

    The other side of the coin is this. If you have 38spl ammunition, but your license card only says 357 magnum. Unless, a SAPS member knows whats going on, you will be in a world of hurt if you get stopped at a road block, because you now have unlicensed ammunition.

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    Default Re: Strange experiance buying ammo

    I would have quoted him section 90 of the FCA of 2000

    Prohibition of possession of ammunition
    90. No person may possess any ammunition unless he or she—
    (a) holds a licence in respect of a firearm capable of discharging that ammunition;

    If your licensed firearm can safely discharge that ammo, then you may possess that ammo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ady View Post
    Yes. My revolver shows 38spl/357mag under the caliber.

    If the DFO has an issue, then get a gunsmith report from a gunshop.

    The other side of the coin is this. If you have 38spl ammunition, but your license card only says 357 magnum. Unless, a SAPS member knows whats going on, you will be in a world of hurt if you get stopped at a road block, because you now have unlicensed ammunition.
    I will try next time, I mean, it cannot hurt to have multiple calibres listed. Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by mic View Post
    I would have quoted him section 90 of the FCA of 2000

    Prohibition of possession of ammunition
    90. No person may possess any ammunition unless he or she—
    (a) holds a licence in respect of a firearm capable of discharging that ammunition;

    If your licensed firearm can safely discharge that ammo, then you may possess that ammo.
    Yeah, thats exactly what I thought. Thanks for confirming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shooty View Post
    LOL. Got that feeling when visiting the new Firearms shop in CPT area with the underground rifle range. And there was alot of new young staff. But they are there to sell but had zero knowledge on anything when you asked them. Guess they will pick up knowledge with time. But they should have at least brought in an seasoned store person.
    We all have to start off somewhere when we start a new job. Fair enough. You cant know everything by lunch time. But you need some seasoned guy to show the ropes and advise.
    But when you know nothing, and are cocky on top of that, well that's a recipe for disaster.

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    Default Re: Strange experiance buying ammo

    Being a retail sales assistant isn't lucrative or particularly aspirational. I think it's unrealistic to expect more than a handful of such employees in gun shops to be doing anything much more than marking time waiting for a better opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zguy View Post
    Oh, so on the actual card it can specify multiple calibers? Doesn't this depend on how the firearm is captured on the CFR's system and dealer sheet?
    There are calibres like 380 ACP which have a multitude of generally accepted designations (e.g. 9mm Short, 9mm Kurz, 9mm Corto, 9mm Court, 9mm Browning, 9x17 and probably others) which, depending on where you're brass comes from may appear on the headstamp. It's safe to say that what passes for a system at CFR won't have every valid designation for the same cartridge in their reference data much less the possible interchangeable combinations that may be possessed for the same firearm.

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    Default Re: Strange experiance buying ammo

    And it's also possible (but not advisable) to fire 9mmK in a 9mmP pistol.

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    Back in the days when Tokarev handgun ammo was semi unobtainium, I used to take a 223 Rem case, cut it down to 25mm, reamed it out a bit and hand loaded it so I can enjoy my Tokarev pistol. I still have some of those rounds left. Makes for an interesting conversation piece at a SAPS roadblock...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ady View Post
    That is why when you apply you put the caliber as 38spl/357 mag or 223 remington / 5.56x45 etc. It makes things a little more idiot proof for you.
    I asked my DFO to have 38SPL/357Mag printed on my card for my S&W M19.
    He asked what was printed on the barrel and I said 357 Mag. His response, then that is what will be on the card, I will not add anything.

    As a work around, I bought a 38SPL Section 16 Snubbie...

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    Quote Originally Posted by oafpatroll View Post
    Being a retail sales assistant isn't lucrative or particularly aspirational. I think it's unrealistic to expect more than a handful of such employees in gun shops to be doing anything much more than marking time waiting for a better opportunity.
    This is true, but one would hope, apparently in vain, that someone who seeks employment at a specialist store, has at least enough interest in the subject to do a bit of light reading about it.

    Of course, as we know, this might have been the case years ago, but no longer.

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