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    Can anyone help with the year of manufacture of this Shotgun? It has a black powder (BP) stamp on the barrels.
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    Hoffie give us the details on the barrels etc . I dont think anyone will be able to help based on the photos alone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoffie View Post
    Can anyone help with the year of manufacture of this Shotgun? It has a black powder (BP) stamp on the barrels.
    Bloody nice gun Hoffie! Do tell a bit about if you can?

    The ejector tells me that it is probably not earlier than around 1890. Early ejectors start around 1874 but the Southgate ejector (which this looks like to me) appeared around 1889. By around 1900 the hammerless gun was the most common and I think not many were made after that. My guess is therefore probably sometime between 1890 - 1900.

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    I guess it will have damascus barrels which prohibit you from using moderm ammunition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okatopi View Post
    I guess it will have damascus barrels which prohibit you from using moderm ammunition.
    Correct, damascus barrels. The following engravings are on the barrels:
    12 - BV(crown above) - BP(crown above) - 12C (in diamond block) - CHOKE - WR - TRADE (outline of elephant) MARK - (5 digit serial no. starting with 4) - STEEL. I can pm the serial no. to someone who knows how to trace it.
    The following engraving is on top of the barrels.
    "WW GREENER, MAKER, 68 HAYMARKET LONDON, WORKS, ST MARY'S SQUARE, BIRMINGHAM, MADE FOR W. RAWBONE, CAPE TOWN." I believe W Rawbone was a gun-shop here in Cape Town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderin' Zero View Post
    Bloody nice gun Hoffie! Do tell a bit about if you can?
    I inherited the gun from my grandfather after he passed away in 1977. My dad had to register it in his name at that stage. I have no history on the gun except that my grandfather used it to shoot jackal on his Karoo farm. He sold the farm in the mid 60s and it hasn't been fired since. i don't think it was used often, the insides of barrels are like mirrors.

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    I'd contact Classic Arms for more info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoffie View Post
    I inherited the gun from my grandfather after he passed away in 1977. My dad had to register it in his name at that stage. I have no history on the gun except that my grandfather used it to shoot jackal on his Karoo farm. He sold the farm in the mid 60s and it hasn't been fired since. i don't think it was used often, the insides of barrels are like mirrors.
    Lekka! Worth a few bob that gun is.

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    Collecters item for sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSP View Post
    I'd contact Classic Arms for more info.
    Thanks, will call them

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