Caught in slow motion.

**Craig** · 22-03-2009, 23:28

I came across this pic I took recently while at the range with Andy and thought I share it with you guys.

Sorry Andy, but you make a good model. ;D

**Chops** · 23-03-2009, 21:50

Two things.
A: That is NOT a good model. The words guy and model cannot be used in the same sentence unless do/doing is in there as well.
B: What load are you using, recoil seems fierce.

**Craig** · 23-03-2009, 22:27

Originally Posted by Chops

Two things.
A: That is NOT a good model. The words guy and model cannot be used in the same sentence unless do/doing is in there as well.
B: What load are you using, recoil seems fierce.

Sorry Chops, no more references to models, unless I'm refering to gun from now on. hpy180

As for the gun, it was a .50 Baby Eagle with +P+ ammo. ;D 8)

Jokes, its a HK USPc .45, not sure what ammo it was, but the recoil was noticable as can be seen, the gun was ubber accurate thought.

**SWATG** · 24-03-2009, 07:43

Ok a quick one on the recoil, and please bear in mind I could be wrong on this one, and I am not trying to criticize what I see, firstly when holding a pistol in this fashion you will have more felt recoil, it has to do with the lock up of the wrists, when arching your arms to that extreme you can not get a positive lock up of your wrists, and hence recoil will be more. Secondly and I might be wrong here as I can not see clearly, it seems that the support hand index finger is on the trigger guard, which gives you a couple of kg's less control on pistol, if it is the finger then you will notice it disappear and then come back again, which means a loss of control, and generally slower follow up shots and more recoil.

Please guys in no way am I trying to sound like a wise ass or say it is a bad shooting posture, or criticizing the person in the picture, just giving my view on what I see in the picture, and what I can see is limited!

**andy_760901** · 24-03-2009, 07:58

the most prominent thing indicated in the picture is not the recoil, but that damn beer boep of mine md217

If the gun arm looks a little awkward its due to me breaking my elbow a while ago, if i shoot alot it becomes a little painfull to extend straight so i bend it slightly, doc says this will become less of an issue as time goes on.

And yes recoil was stiff in the 45ACP, i admit that by changing my grip i could probably lessen the recoil, but so used to shooting finger forward that for me it would be like re-inventing the wheel. but you will notice that the ejected caseing is barely out the port and im already bearing down on target for my second shot, or third or fourth grn1

**BoerBok** · 24-03-2009, 08:49

Originally Posted by andy_760901

the most prominent thing indicated in the picture is not the recoil, but that damn beer boep of mine md217

Not a beer boep, it's a fuel tank for a drinking machine... hpy180

**christo** · 24-03-2009, 10:48

Originally Posted by SWATG

Ok a quick one on the recoil, and please bear in mind I could be wrong on this one, and I am not trying to criticize what I see, firstly when holding a pistol in this fashion you will have more felt recoil, it has to do with the lock up of the wrists, when arching your arms to that extreme you can not get a positive lock up of your wrists, and hence recoil will be more. Secondly and I might be wrong here as I can not see clearly, it seems that the support hand index finger is on the trigger guard, which gives you a couple of kg's less control on pistol, if it is the finger then you will notice it disappear and then come back again, which means a loss of control, and generally slower follow up shots and more recoil.

Please guys in no way am I trying to sound like a wise ass or say it is a bad shooting posture, or criticizing the person in the picture, just giving my view on what I see in the picture, and what I can see is limited!

Swattie
Am I understanding correctly given my recent lack of interpertation and reading skills confused0068 that if you put your finger on the trigger gaurd that you have LESS control of the firearm. I know of somebody that shoots his 17 with the finger on the trigger guard?

**christo** · 24-03-2009, 10:53

with what camera did you take that pic?

**SSP** · 24-03-2009, 10:58

Originally Posted by christo

Originally Posted by SWATG

Ok a quick one on the recoil, and please bear in mind I could be wrong on this one, and I am not trying to criticize what I see, firstly when holding a pistol in this fashion you will have more felt recoil, it has to do with the lock up of the wrists, when arching your arms to that extreme you can not get a positive lock up of your wrists, and hence recoil will be more. Secondly and I might be wrong here as I can not see clearly, it seems that the support hand index finger is on the trigger guard, which gives you a couple of kg's less control on pistol, if it is the finger then you will notice it disappear and then come back again, which means a loss of control, and generally slower follow up shots and more recoil.

Please guys in no way am I trying to sound like a wise ass or say it is a bad shooting posture, or criticizing the person in the picture, just giving my view on what I see in the picture, and what I can see is limited!

Swattie
Am I understanding correctly given my recent lack of interpertation and reading skills confused0068 that if you put your finger on the trigger gaurd that you have LESS control of the firearm. I know of somebody that shoots his 17 with the finger on the trigger guard?

That's right. Less control. I don't know why europeans insist on putting hooks/checkering on the front of trigger guards.

**christo** · 24-03-2009, 11:00

Originally Posted by SSP

Originally Posted by christo

Originally Posted by SWATG

Ok a quick one on the recoil, and please bear in mind I could be wrong on this one, and I am not trying to criticize what I see, firstly when holding a pistol in this fashion you will have more felt recoil, it has to do with the lock up of the wrists, when arching your arms to that extreme you can not get a positive lock up of your wrists, and hence recoil will be more. Secondly and I might be wrong here as I can not see clearly, it seems that the support hand index finger is on the trigger guard, which gives you a couple of kg's less control on pistol, if it is the finger then you will notice it disappear and then come back again, which means a loss of control, and generally slower follow up shots and more recoil.

Please guys in no way am I trying to sound like a wise ass or say it is a bad shooting posture, or criticizing the person in the picture, just giving my view on what I see in the picture, and what I can see is limited!

I must admit that it does feel more comfortable to shoot it like that, but ill keep it in mind. TX
Swattie
Am I understanding correctly given my recent lack of interpertation and reading skills confused0068 that if you put your finger on the trigger gaurd that you have LESS control of the firearm. I know of somebody that shoots his 17 with the finger on the trigger guard?

That's right. Less control. I don't know why europeans insist on putting hooks/checkering on the front of trigger guards.