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25-01-2013, 18:01 #1
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-21192064
25 January 2013 Last updated at 15:49 GMT
Guns and drugs smuggling soldiers jailed
Lemar Loveless was the ringleader
Four British soldiers who tried to smuggle guns and drugs into the UK have been jailed.
The men, along with a fifth man, were caught after firearms, ammunition and cocaine were found in a car arriving at Folkestone from Calais in January 2012.
They were convicted of firearms and drugs charges on Monday after a six-week trial.
At Woolwich Crown Court they were given prison sentences ranging from six-and-a-half years to 14 years.
Describing it as "a carefully planned enterprise" Judge Philip Shorrock said: "The guns were intended for use by serious criminals. They would be used to kill or maim."
Drugs in boot The court heard the gang was caught after armed police stopped two of the men in two BMW cars arriving at Folkestone on Eurotunnel last year.
Officers discovered five handguns and three silencers, while 500g of cocaine was found in an Army issue boot covered in duct tape and curry powder to disguise the smell.
There was a conspiracy involving four soldiers and their civilian contact, the court heard
Detectives believe the guns were destined for criminal gangs in London.
Ringleader Lemar Loveless, 26, of Brydon Walk, Islington, north London, was jailed for 14 years after admitting conspiring to import firearms.
Lance Laurent, 26, of Gloucester Street, Battersea, south-west London, was sentenced to 12 years in jail after admitting conspiring to import firearms.
Both Loveless and Laurent were also found guilty of conspiring to import class A drugs.
Trave Dyce, 22, of Sydney Road, Smethwick, West Midlands, was jailed for seven-and-a-half years after he admitted conspiring to import drugs and firearms.
Romone Mashalleck, 25, of Huron Street, Balham, south London, was sentenced to six-and-a-half years in jail after being found guilty of conspiring to import firearms.
Duran Wright, a regimental police officer in the Army, was jailed for 10 years.
Officers found five handguns and three silencers
The 28-year-old, of Jerningham Road, New Cross, south-east London, was found guilty of conspiring to import class A drugs and firearms.
Jurors heard Dyce, Laurent and Wright were serving soldiers while Loveless was on terminal leave ahead of his discharge from the Army.
Alison Saunders, of the CPS, said: "This was a planned conspiracy to bring weapons, ammunition and drugs into the UK organised by four soldiers, based in Germany, and their civilian contact in London."
She said the full extent of those involved was only discovered when phone data was "meticulously analysed and a picture of those involved was created".
She continued: "These deadly weapons could have gone on to be used in violent crimes.
"The high-purity cocaine that was imported had a street value of over £70,000 and would almost certainly have made big profits for criminal gangs while damaging lives."
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25-01-2013, 19:32 #2
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Wow...and the most one got is 14 years? They sure take their gun crime soooo seriously on Mud Island.
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25-01-2013, 19:46 #3
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The gun control crowd would label this a victory. For every one caught..
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26-01-2013, 16:16 #4
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Just for shits n giggles from gunfree UK:
Gunman dies after public stop Plymouth bookmaker robbery
Ladbrokes are assisting the police with their inquiries
A masked gunman has died after being pinned down and restrained by customers during an armed robbery at a bookmakers in Plymouth.
The man, in his 50s, entered the Ladbrokes branch in Crownhill Road at 18:45 GMT on Friday wearing a gas mask and holding a pistol.
Police arrested the man, who was already unconscious, but he died a short time later at the scene.
The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) is investigating.
Chief Insp Ian Drummond-Smith: "We have recovered a firearm of sorts"
The man has been identified but next of kin have not yet been informed, a spokesman for Devon and Cornwall Police said.
The spokesman said when the man entered the shop, he was "immediately tackled" by customers and "held down still wearing his gas mask".
Ch Insp Ian Drummond-Smith said: "Customers and staff tackled the man, overpowered him, disarmed him and restrained him and when police officers arrived they found him being restrained but noted that he was unresponsive and wasn't breathing."
He said the police and ambulance service attempted to resuscitate him but he was declared dead about 20 minutes later at the scene.
Ch Insp Drummond-Smith added: "We have recovered a firearm of sorts, it hasn't been fully examined yet so I'm unable to confirm whether its a replica or a genuine firearm.
"This is a very serious incident. We cannot speculate on what has actually taken place here today."
A spokeswoman for the IPCC said it had "received a referral from Devon and Cornwall Police following the death of a man in Plymouth".
It added: "A full assessment of the circumstances will now take place and a decision on the level of IPCC involvement will be made in due course."
A spokesman for Ladbrokes said the company was assisting police.
Eyewitness David Marfleet said it was a surprise the incident had occurred in such a "nice quiet area"
David Walker, 55, from West Park, Plymouth, said he walked into the bookmakers about five minutes after the incident.
He said: "When I went in there, they were scuffling on the floor, I just thought it was just a fight or something.
"There were the two men, customers I think, on top of him, and the bloke on the floor.
"I didn't see their faces, as they were holding the guy down at the back of the shop. I couldn't see any mask and there wasn't any physical movement, they were just holding him."
Ivor Green, 67, also from West Park, said he was not surprised that customers had tried to defend the staff.
He said: "The staff become your friends, it's a little family, and it's no different to a member of your family being threatened. He shouldn't have been doing that in the first place."
David Marfleet said: "As I drove past you could see that Ladbrokes was absolutely full of policeman at that time.
"[There were] easily 10 police cars and then two riot vans and then the ambulance that turned up on site as well.
"We don't normally have any trouble around here, it's quite a surprise it being such a nice quiet area."
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26-01-2013, 16:21 #5
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An Inspector cannot tell if a firearm is a replica or not... wow. One of the guys hoding him down probably had his hand over the air intake port of the mask.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-24666591
A 3D printer and suspected "homemade" gun components have been seized during police raids in Manchester.
A plastic magazine and trigger, which detectives suspect could be fitted together to make a firearm, were found in Wythenshawe on Thursday.
Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said forensic experts were assessing whether the parts could make a viable gun.
A man has been arrested on suspicion of making gunpowder and remains in custody.
A force spokesman said if the tests showed the parts could make a functioning weapon it would be the "first ever seizure of this kind in the UK".
Continue reading the main story Analysis
Rebecca Morelle Science reporter, BBC World Service
Earlier this year in Texas, I saw the world's first 3D printed gun being fired for the first time.
The weapon looked more like a toy: It was small, white and made entirely from plastic.
But as the shot rang out, you could feel its deadly force.
The blueprints were online for just a few days before the US government ordered them to be removed.
But by then they had been downloaded more than 100,000 times. The genie was out of the bottle.
The man behind the gun Cody Wilson, who describes himself as a cryptoanarchist, said he wasn't surprised about the seizure in the UK.
He told me that over the last few months he has received emails from people in Europe and the UK who have been printing out components for plastic firearms.
Det Insp Chris Mossop, of GMP, said: "If what we have seized is proven to be viable components capable of constructing a genuine firearm, then it demonstrates that organised crime groups are acquiring technology that can be bought on the high street to produce the next generation of weapons.
"In theory, the technology essentially allows offenders to produce their own guns in the privacy of their own home, which they can then supply to the criminal gangs who are causing such misery in our communities.
"Because they are also plastic and can avoid X-ray detection, it makes them easy to conceal and smuggle."
He added: "If what we have seized today can, as we suspect, be used to make a genuine firearm then today will be an important milestone in the fight against this next generation of homemade weapons."
The BBC's home affairs correspondent Dominic Casciani said the discovery was "almost inevitable" because of the relatively few firearms in circulation.
"The worst-case-scenario would be a cheap and 100% reliable device that could be made overnight and then destroyed after just one use, disposing of crucial evidence to pin to a suspect," he added.
'Available guns' The raid was part of GMP's Operation Challenger, which aims to "dismantle" organised criminal gangs.
Continue reading the main story Analysis Dominic Casciani Home affairs correspondent, BBC News
This discovery in Manchester, if proven to be viable, was almost inevitable.
Britain has relatively little gun crime because we have so few firearms in circulation.
We know that organised crime gangs loan firearms to overcome their scarcity - police ballistics experts can often link one weapon to crimes that occurred far apart.
But if gangs get over that shortage by printing guns, the policing challenges cannot be under-estimated. The worst-case-scenario would be a cheap and 100% reliable device that could be made overnight and then destroyed after just one use, disposing of crucial evidence to pin to a suspect.
So police will be seeking intelligence on who has the capability to make these guns - not just who wants them.
Detectives know they need to get one step ahead and stop these people before they do anything with the blueprints.
Counterfeit goods worth £2m, more than £330,000 of drugs and £25,000 cash, have been seized in a crackdown.
3D printing technology works by building up layer upon layer of material - typically plastic - to create complex solid objects.
Desktop 3D printers can be bought on the high street for less than £1,000, but prices can be as high as £10,000.
The world's first gun made with 3D printer technology was successfully fired in the US in May.
The group that created the firearm, Defense Distributed, said it planned to make the blueprints available online.
Defense Distributed is headed by Cody Wilson, a 25-year-old law student at the University of Texas, who defended making the design available by saying: "I'm seeing a world where technology says you can pretty much be able to have whatever you want.
"It's not up to the political players anymore."
At the time, Europe's law enforcement agency Europol said it feared criminals would follow suit as the technology became cheaper and more user friendly.
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