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    Default Re: Valdor Uren / Strand Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    Well I don't understand his argument at all.

    If the client has a creen license or a S16 license then the dealer cannot be at any risk at all by supplying 100000 rounds at a time.

    It's black letter law. No educated guesses or reading of tea-leaves involved.

    When we start making up rules we get into trouble.
    Paul you're commenting without having the full facts.

    Valdor will sell you more than 200 rounds if you have a Section 16 license.

    I bought 2000 .223 rounds from him, no problems.

    What he is wary of is selling people more than 200 rounds if they not have a Section 16 license, but say it's OK because they have DSS.


    I can understand his point.

    Firstly, DSS is not granted by the FCR, it is granted by the sporting/hunting organization the person belongs to. In most cases, a DSS certificate is just a printed piece of paper with some writing on it. I can produce a fake SADPA DSS certificate within about 30 minutes using Microsoft Word and an InkJet printer.

    Secondly, DSS is specific to the sport. Some people will say they want to buy 2000 rounds of 9mmP ammo and that it is OK to exceed the 200 round limit, because they have DSS. When you ask them what organization they belong to, it will turn out to be SA Wingshooters or something like that.

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    Default Re: Valdor Uren / Strand Guns

    Ahh... which is why I said I don't understand.

    Now that you put a more rounded argument in fron of us we can all see where this comes from.

    Obviously a little interrogation of the buyer is called for. If he/she doesn't have a S16 or old license then a certificate from an accredited association should be sufficient to protect the dealer. The buyer is the one who carries the risk in any event. There is nothing to stop the buyer from doing a tour of gunshops to buy 200 rounds at each, leaving each gunshop in the clear but leading to the buyer exceeding the limit at his or her own peril.
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    Default Re: Valdor Uren / Strand Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    There is nothing to stop the buyer from doing a tour of gunshops to buy 200 rounds at each, leaving each gunshop in the clear but leading to the buyer exceeding the limit at his or her own peril.
    Good point. The buyer can even visit the same gunshops numerous times a few days inbetween, without raising much suspicion.


    To people who've been PMing me for Valdor's details, here it is.

    Email: strandguns@gmail.com
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    Cel: +27 72 629 4663

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    Default Re: Valdor Uren / Strand Guns

    Always good doing business with Valdor. Good pricing and a top attitude .... Keep up the good work!

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    i have only ever dealt with Valdor once, and can honestly say it was an absolute pleasure...

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    Could someone give me Valdor's current business phone number? I did a quick google search and found 2 different phone numbers. I've tried them both without any success...

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    021 851 3136

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    Thanks very much guys! Will give him a call.

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    Default Re: Valdor Uren / Strand Guns

    I popped in to Valdor's a few days ago and it sounded as if the battle with the SAPS about his premises has been resolved and the paperwork should be in his hands shortly.

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