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12-10-2009, 10:22 #1
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Safe Inspection: You can supply photo's
I applied for competency & a new license in Feb at Linden SAPS, since then nothing has happened to the application.
I gave them a call the other day to try and find out when they can come and do my safe inspection.
The lady on the phone said I can take photo's and bring it to them, and they will accept it.
So I did that, no I'm just waiting for the interviews to be done.
The lady's name at SAPS Linden is Jenny
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12-10-2009, 10:30 #2
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Re: Safe Inspection: You can supply photo's
Yep, someone posted the SAPS directive, and we have discussed this here already.
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12-10-2009, 10:53 #3
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Re: Safe Inspection: You can supply photo's
cool gizmo16, tnx!
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12-10-2009, 11:00 #4
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Re: Safe Inspection: You can supply photo's
Here is the directive, FYI.
CONDUCTING OF SAFE INSPECTIONS: APPLICATIONS FOR THE RENEWAL OF FIREARM LICENCES IN TERMS OF THE FIREARMS CONTROL ACT, 2000 (Act No. 60 of 2000)
1. Regulation 86 of the Firearms Control Regulations, 2004 stipulate that when a firearm is not under the direct personal and physical control of a holder of a licence, permit or authorization to possess the firearm, the firearm and its ammunition must be stored in a safe or strongroom that conforms to the prescripts of SABS Standards 953-1 and 953-2, unless otherwise specifically provided in the Firearms Control Regulations, 2004.
2. It is imperative and necessary in terms of regulation 86 (11) (a) that where storage of a firearm, other than a firearm licenced in terms of section 13 of the Firearms Control Act, 2000 (Act No. 60 of 2000) for self defence is to be exercised, the firearm must be stored unloaded.
3. It is therefore a prerequisite that before the South African Police Service can issue a firearm licence, permit or authorization to a person to possess a firearm, such person must prove that she/he do have the necessary safe storage facility in terms of regulation 86 of the Firearms Control Regulation, 2004.
4. In order to enhance service delivery and ensure a smooth administration of applications for the renewal of firearm licences of individuals, it has been decided that the Designated Firearms Officer can accept a sworn affidavit/solemn declaration from an applicant stating the he/she is in possession of a prescribed safe as per paragraph 1 supra instead of the Designated Firearms Officer visiting the premises of the applicant to inspect the safe storage facilities.
5. In the case where an applicant is in possession of a safe or strongroom for the safe custody of the firearms which complies with the regulations under the previous Arms and Ammunition Act, 1969 (Act No. 75 of 1969), such safe or strongroom is deemed to comply with the standards set out in SABS Standard 953-1 and 953-2 respectively.
6. It is required of the applicant to complete the sworn declaration/solemn affirmation (Annexure “A”) in which she/he acknowledge the contents of regulation 86 (1) and 86 (8) of the Firearm Control Regulations, 2004.
7. The applicant must further provide photographic proof in color of the affixed safe and the location thereof.
8. The signed sworn declaration/solemn affirmation together with the photographed safe/strongroom must be submitted together with the application as an integral part of the supporting documents that must accompany the respective applications.
9. The responsibility is still with the relevant Designated Firearms Officer to inspect the safes where a person (applicant) refuse to sign the attached solemn declaration/sworn affidavit or failed to provide photographic proof to verify such safe storage facility or any other safe storage facilities.
10. This directive must be implemented with effect from 11 August 2009.
11. Your co-operation to effectively implement the above procedure is highly appreciated.
DIRECTOR
SECTION HEAD: FIREARMS, LIQUOR AND SECOND-HAND GOODS CONTROL
JJ BOTHMA
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South African Police Service
Division: Visible Policing
Head Office
Pretoria
27-06-2009
RENEWAL OF FIREARM LICENCES, PERMITS AND AUTHORISATIONS: TRANSITIONAL PROVISIONS: FIREARMS CONTROL ACT, 2000 (ACT NO. 60 OF 2000)
A. 1. This office's evenly numbered letter, dated 2009-06-03, bears reference on this matter.
2. On Friday 2009-06-26, the North Gauteng High Court, Pretoria, issued an interim order pending the finalization of the main application in that all firearm licences contemplated in sub-item 1 of Schedule 1 of the Firearms Control Act, 2000 (Act No 60 of 2000) (hereinafter "the Act"), will be deemed to be lawful and valid, pending final adjudication of the main application.
3. This effectively means that where a person is in possession of a firearm and relevant licence, permit or authorization, issued in terms of the Arms and Ammunition Act, 1969 (Act No 75 of 1969) (hereinafter the "previous Act"), as amended, such a person will remain legally in possession of such firearm and may not be prosecuted in terms of section 3 of the Act. In terms of section 3 of the Act no person may possess a firearm unless he or she holds a license, permit or authorization issued in terms of the Firearms Control Act, 2000 (Act No 60 of 2000), for that firearm.
4. The main effect of the order is that persons (natural / juristic persons) who have not yet re-licenced their firearms as provided for in the transitional provisions of the Act, or have not yet disposed of the firearms as required by the Act, may lawfully remain in possession of those firearms after 30 June 2009, at least until the main application has been decided.
5. In the case where firearm owners have already opted to dispose of their firearms through deactivation, permanent exportation, voluntarily surrendered to the South African Police Service for destruction, or by selling/donating the firearm to another person/legal entity, such administrative processes related thereto must continue.
6. All firearms that have been voluntarily surrendered to the South African Police Service, for the purpose of destruction, may not be destroyed until further directives in this regard has been disseminated from this office. These firearms may not be handed back to the original firearm owner.
7. Any person who opted to sell/donate their firearms to other persons/legal entity, and who in the meantime have surrendered such firearms for safe keeping to the South African Police Service, may retrieve (if so desired), their respective firearms and firearm licences from the police stations where they were handed in.
8. In the case where a legal owner (seller/donor) has applied for a temporary authorization to possess a firearm in terms of section 21 (transitional period) of the Act, the respective Designated Firearms Officer must continue with the administrative process and issue the temporary authorizations. The firearm together with the firearm license, permit, authorization and/or the temporary authorization must be handed to such legal owner.
9. All storage permits issued for firearms in terms of the previous Act will remain valid until the expiry date of such permit. Further storage permits (SAPS 539) may be issued in terms of Regulation 86(4) of the Firearms Control Regulations, 2004, for a further period if required.
10. All firearms which are currently in safe storage with licenced firearm dealers and gunsmiths, will remain valid and need not be handed to the South African Police Service for destruction.
11. In the case where a person applied for the renewal of his/her firearm licence and such renewal application has been refused and/or the appeal has not been successful, such person may legally continue to possess such firearms in terms of the previous Act, until further notice from this office.
12. All current administrative processes applicable to the provisions of the Act, must still continue within the ambit of the existing processes and procedures.
13. This directive must be immediately disseminated to all members of the South African Police Service for the necessary compliance.
14. Your co-operation and commitment to effectively implement the provisions of the Firearms Control legislation is highly appreciated.
Signed
DIVISIONAL COMMISSIONER: VISIBLE POLICING
AH LAMOER
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12-10-2009, 11:26 #5
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Re: Safe Inspection: You can supply photo's
Not sure if that directive applies only to RENEWALS, but it appears to be the accepted method for NEW applicants too.
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14-10-2009, 10:34 #6
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Re: Safe Inspection: You can supply photo's
This I have been told by my DFO too.. which is weird, as the directive says nothing about new licenses... I am confused.
Originally Posted by prodigal
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