Black powder canon

[gunsports]

Let's re-cap:

To enter the BP game, you first need a BP competency. For that you go to an accredited training provider and do the training. Then you apply for the competency.
Only when you have received the competency, can you purchase a BP firearm.
Only when you have a firearm, can you apply for a BP permit.
The BP permit requires a competency and a certificate from a gunsmith stating the details of the BP firearm you own.
Do not apply for a BP certificate on the strength of either a cannon or a C&B revolver. These are currently grey areas and you'll just be hassled endlessly.
If you want to shoot BP in your (licensed) Martini Henry, you need a BP competency and a certificate from the gunsmith describing the gun in which the BP is to be used. You also need to include a cert. copy of your license for the BP cartridge gun you need the BP for.

[LEGION]

and don't talk to explosives department about manufacturing your own bp, please

[Frizzle]

Go and read the post made by Gunsport earlier in the thread.

You need a muzzle loader competency and a black powder permit. muzzle loading cannon is a grey area.
It is not really included in the definition of a muzzle loader, but not really excluded as well.
Before you will be able to apply for a BP permit you will have to get a BP gun (excluding a cannon).
After this you can safely go and buy BP for your cannon.

Thanks for fixing my boo-boo. My friend who has a muzzle loader (I shoot with it, but can't be bothered to get one myself) has explained it to me but I obviously muddled my permits and competencies and yeah, you get the idea.

[spiggs]

Let's re-cap:

To enter the BP game, you first need a BP competency. For that you go to an accredited training provider and do the training. Then you apply for the competency.
Only when you have received the competency, can you purchase a BP firearm.
Only when you have a firearm, can you apply for a BP permit.
The BP permit requires a competency and a certificate from a gunsmith stating the details of the BP firearm you own.
Do not apply for a BP certificate on the strength of either a cannon or a C&B revolver. These are currently grey areas and you'll just be hassled endlessly.
If you want to shoot BP in your (licensed) Martini Henry, you need a BP competency and a certificate from the gunsmith describing the gun in which the BP is to be used. You also need to include a cert. copy of your license for the BP cartridge gun you need the BP for.

Got it cheers!

[Scuba Steve]

So why the grey area on C&b's?

[Frizzle]

So why the grey area on C&b's?

Herewith a possible reason.
Let me quote from the FCA.

Prohibited firearms
4. (1) The following firearms and devices are prohibited firearms and may not be
possessed or licensed in terms of this Act, except as provided for in sections 17, 18(5),
19 and 20(1)(b):
(a) Any fully automatic firearm;
(b) any gun, cannon, recoilless gun, mortar, light mortar or launcher manufactured
to fire a rocket, grenade, self-propelled grenade, bomb or explosive
device;

Now the grey area comes in here: You're arguing that it's made to shoot solid lead balls, and not to fire rockets, grenades, and so forth.

[Scuba Steve]

No, my argument is it doesn't say "cap and ball"?

[spiggs]

Herewith a possible reason.
Let me quote from the FCA.


Now the grey area comes in here: You're arguing that it's made to shoot solid lead balls, and not to fire rockets, grenades, and so forth.

There goes the cannon idea!

[Dylanm]

There goes the cannon idea!

[Kayback]

That sounds to me like they are using the term "cannon" as something that delivers an explosive payload and not a solid projectile .