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Thread: You've been Made (Images)
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03-12-2019, 17:40 #461
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03-12-2019, 17:48 #462
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Re: You've been Made (Images)
I am a person that likes data, real data brings truth to a discussion, and another thing I know for a fact is that if something is repeated enough it becomes fact, not my preferred type of data.
So I hear this statement a lot, someone who carries open is a soft target, a drive through, look obviously I don’t carry open but to myself I think this is just something we are saying without data, something we have said enough times to believe it.
I sure am not going to mess with someone who I identify is armed, some criminals are stupid and brazen I get that, but for the rest I believe it deters them.
If someone here have real data on the subject(not opinions ) I would appreciate it, would probably come from the states however as we don’t have such laws.
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03-12-2019, 18:35 #463
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Re: You've been Made (Images)
I know of one definite case in the late 1990's in Mossel Bay, a kid grabbed a gun from a man, carrying without concealing, in a bakery and ran off with it.
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03-12-2019, 20:03 #464
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03-12-2019, 20:52 #465
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Re: You've been Made (Images)
Messor, I only have relative extensive data of Farm Attacks as I am involved in the whole screw up of it. There is no info in the data describing if the victim was carrying or concealed if the victims own gun was used on him. I presume in a Farm Attack scenario where most of the time the attackers has inside info beforehand that they know if the victims are carrying or not. Concealment or not thus a non-event. I carry concealed, but surely all the farm workers know I do carry. When working with people in fields and doing farm work they will see that you carry and then everyone knows. Short answer - No data as such for Farm Attacks. Might be something to consider, but I doubt has any effect.
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03-12-2019, 20:55 #466
Re: You've been Made (Images)
I’ve seen two videos taken in Jhb CBD where 6 guys would attack a victim. One person each would take a limb, another chokes the victim and the 6th relieves him of his belongings. In both instances the guys were targeted for their firearms.
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03-12-2019, 21:02 #467
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Re: You've been Made (Images)
If a person / group of people try to disarm you how do you retaliate ?
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03-12-2019, 21:03 #468
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03-12-2019, 21:36 #469
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Re: You've been Made (Images)
I would definitely not carry open in a city environment, simply because of the unknowns, too much close proximity to unknowns. But that in itself is a problem, open carry or not, so I do the logical thing, I avoid bigger cities and crowded places all together.
On a farm, I doubt there is a farm worker out there that doesn’t know the status of his employer, nor people gathering info on possible victims, and that in itself makes the carry position irrelevant, since hitting someone over the head when he is concealed carrying or open makes no difference. The thing is we dress around our firearms, and people need two hands to draw, one to lift and the other to draw. One common feature in rural skirmishes is the fact that you often read about physical fights before any shooting takes place. This I believe is but the result of being ambushed, not being ready for an attack. But still, is it not easier drawing during a physical altercation with one hand rather than both?
As said I don’t know the answers, merely wondering if the truth is properly reflected by the opinions given here, or whether that being said is just something being repeated.
I do have one personal opinion on the matter, and unfortunately that comes from conversations with people that open carry, I think despite their carry method the worrying factor should rather be if they are capable with their weapons in the first place, because many of them shows a severe lack of knowledge on the subject to start with.
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03-12-2019, 23:44 #470
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