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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed_Freak View Post
    The S&B primers are pretty hard, I would say on a par with Winchester.
    The hardest primers I have found are the Russia Murom primers and the PMP are also up there.
    A lot of factory ammo (high end types) use Federal or CCI, both of which are very soft
    CCI is considered the hardest US primer. With Winchester being second behind Federal.

    My experience with S&B has been good. But they are harder than Winchester and I still use Winchester for big match ammo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigT View Post
    CCI is considered the hardest US primer. With Winchester being second behind Federal.

    My experience with S&B has been good. But they are harder than Winchester and I still use Winchester for big match ammo.
    Why Winchester for big match ammo if you once upon a time carried S&B ball in your G17, using their primers? Just curious.

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    Default Re: Are S&B primers harder?

    I must be lucky, in over 8k S&B SPP I have not had a single miss fire (one hang fire though).

    In my experience S&B are slightly more difficult to seat and I think this is where the light strikes are coming in.

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    Default Re: Are S&B primers harder?

    bought 2000 s&b lpp on friday
    on saturday witness guy have 4 light strikes with a glock on s&b primers and now i see this feeling a touch worried and thinking the R200 i saved from buying winchesters was not money saved

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    Light strikes on a Glock is not the norm. So I hope you will be fine.

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    Default Re: Are S&B primers harder?

    I have used a couple thousand S&B Small Pistol primers and have had no issues, in various firearms and various calibers too.

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    Default Re: Are S&B primers harder?

    Quote Originally Posted by LoopSoosStroop View Post
    My experience as follows, based on use in a revolver very prone to light strikes.

    Form soft to hard:

    Federal
    Winchester
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    CCI, PMP
    Muron
    My experience is a bit different.

    Some years ago, Muron was my preferred primer for DA revolver shooting. They are not available any more.

    Now I use S&B in all my handgun reloads, revolver and pistol.

    I found that Federal, Winchester, CCI and PMP all gave me the odd dud primer [ in small frame and large frame revolver, striker fired and hammer fired pistols ], but so far none with S&B.

    S&B primers are supposed to be the 'softest'.
    Last edited by 414gates; 22-06-2015 at 15:22. Reason: correction

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    Default Re: Are S&B primers harder?

    No I am even more not sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by top dog View Post
    bought 2000 s&b lpp on friday
    on saturday witness guy have 4 light strikes with a glock on s&b primers and now i see this feeling a touch worried and thinking the R200 i saved from buying winchesters was not money saved
    Wild guess, but I'd say this wasn't a primer problem. Badly seated primers, dirty striker channel, worn striker spring etc.

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    Default Re: Are S&B primers harder?

    The first thing to do is make sure the pistol is working properly.

    If it's striker fired, you have to clean the firing pin channel. It must be completely dry. If it's fired a few thousand rounds, look for possible spring replacement. Lots of possible hardware causes, it becomes trial and error.

    Another common cause of light strikes is press primer seating that is a bit out of whack. The primer is flush, but not fully seated in the primer pocket.

    If the pocket is not tight, the first or second strike basically moves the primer, then the subsequent strike ignites it.

    Ignition problems are mostly gun problems, second mostly a primer seating issue, and only very rarely is it a bad primer.

    I'm happy with using S&B, but I do not believe that there is any best brand of primer.

    People have experienced the occasional dud at some point with every brand on the market.

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