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    Default Re: Are S&B primers harder?

    In thousands of rounds of S&B factory FMJ in 3 calibres I have only had one stovepipe FTE ... and that was the G23 in urgent need of a new recoil spring, not the ammo.

    Thousands and thousands of S&B LPP and SPP primers later, I almost never have any issues now that I've mastered correctly seating the primers - initial issues were all down to user error during seating.
    Of course I had my first ever FTF on S&B SPP about 2 weeks ago .... 3 shots after bragging how I've never had any FTFs on S&B SPPs ironically. Just ask SAS
    Upon inspection it was a primer protruding ever so slightly - missed during QC it was so slight.
    There are no stupid questions ........ just stupid people

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    Default Re: Are S&B primers harder?

    Quote Originally Posted by 414gates View Post

    Some years ago, Muron was my preferred primer for DA revolver shooting. They are not available any more.
    @ 414Gates Mo at Sportingarms/Motech has plenty of these Muron primers.

    Back to the OP
    On the S&B primers I have loaded about 4400 for a Sig P250 and a CZ Shadow Zero primer failures.
    500 38spl Rossi snubby Zero failures
    400 40S&W Ruger?? my friend loaded on using my equipment Zero issues.

    I have used about 500 Winchesters on 9mm reloads also no issues.


    Compared to the Winchester ( i went from Winchester when I ran out of S&B with no stock available) i found the S&B is harder to seat. I hand prime
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendank View Post
    Why Winchester for big match ammo if you once upon a time carried S&B ball in your G17, using their primers? Just curious.
    Because the Winchesters are gooder. And the S&B ball was carried for a short period for a specific reason. And my match guns are sprung very lightly.


    I've never had a misfire with Winchester in my reloads with properly seated primers. I have in a lightly sprung match gun with S&B

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    Default Re: Are S&B primers harder?

    stress levels are all good loaded 200 fired 200 no problems all seated well
    S&B good in my book but watch it bite in this weekend while shooting in comp

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    Default Re: Are S&B primers harder?

    Probably approaching 10k-15k reloads using S&B

    Can't remember a single FTF due to a dud primer. FTF due to questionable seating of a primer, maybe 1 or 2

    414gates, I have 1000 Murom SPP if you want to swap for some S&B

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    Default Re: Are S&B primers harder?

    Same here. Shot quite a bit of my reloads recently and the only issue was when I didnt properly seat the primer. Otherwise bang everytime.

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    Default Re: Are S&B primers harder?

    Quote Originally Posted by neilh View Post
    Probably approaching 10k-15k reloads using S&B

    Can't remember a single FTF due to a dud primer. FTF due to questionable seating of a primer, maybe 1 or 2

    414gates, I have 1000 Murom SPP if you want to swap for some S&B
    I started using S&B SPP last year when I finally ran out of CCI and I've probably reloaded 2500 rounds since then in 9x19 and .40 with ZERO issues.

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    Default Re: Are S&B primers harder?

    No issues at all with S&B after about 2000 of reloads shot in GLOCK 19 and Z88. I don't know whether Barnaul make their own primers, but I had two (what I assume was) dead primers in 150 rounds of their non-reloadable 9mm factory ammo. After various strikes by two different guns, nothing happened. Primers eventually looked like Kimberley se Gat after all the firing pin strikes.

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    Default Re: Are S&B primers harder?

    Quote Originally Posted by neilh View Post
    Probably approaching 10k-15k reloads using S&B
    Can't remember a single FTF due to a dud primer.
    not quite that scale, but I have also never had an issue with S&B pistol primers.
    once, a friend of mine's G19 wouldnt fire one of my reloads... I put it into the P30 and it went bang, lol.

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    Default Re: Are S&B primers harder?

    Quote Originally Posted by neilh View Post
    414gates, I have 1000 Murom SPP if you want to swap for some S&B
    I'm happy with S&B, if you want to swap for PMP I have 800.

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