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    Default Re: ‪#‎Mabulemustfall

    Mabule must go - Yes! And Mothau (sp?) and and and!

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    Default Re: ‪#‎Mabulemustfall

    My advice. Keep a voice recorder on you at all times when meeting with him. That way, when he threatens you, you have incontrovertible proof

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    Default Re: ‪#‎Mabulemustfall

    http://www.netwerk24.com/Nuus/Politi...ig-my-20151128

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    Deur Sonja Carstens 28 November 2015 23:07





    Martin Hood, prokureur van Sandton en kampvegter vir vuurwapeneienaars.

    Martin Hood, bekende vuurwapenprokureur en kampvegter vir vuurwapeneienaars se regte, vra in ’n brief aan LP’s dat die parlementêre komitee die polisie se vuurwapenhoof in die bek moet ruk.
    Dis na aanleiding van ’n voorval waar brig. Lucky Mabule, nuwe hoof van die sentrale vuurwapenregister, Hood glo gedreig het en ’n derde party hulle uiteen moes hou om ’n geveg te voorkom.
    Hy skryf hy is besorg oor sy persoonlike welstand ná Mabule se beweerde dreigemente.


    Hood sê aan Rapport hy het dit selfs oorweeg om ’n hofaansoek teen Mabule te bring, maar het besef dit sal verhoudinge net verder versuur. Hy het daarom by die polisiebase gekla, maar dit het op dowe ore geval.
    Mabule is aangestel om die sentrale vuurwapenregister reg te ruk nadat die polisie in die parlement erken het die register en vuurwapenlisensies is in ’n chaotiese toestand.
    Genl. Riah Phiyega, geskorste polisiehoof, het vroeër gesê die afdeling hanteer 12 000 lisensie-aansoeke per maand.
    Mabule het in sy ses maande aan die stuur verskeie stappe gedoen wat die land se vuurwapeneienaars ten nouste raak:

    • Hy het opdrag gegee dat vuurwapenlisensiehouers nie meer grasie moet kry vir laat hernuwings nie. Indien ’n vuurwapenlisensie nie 90 dae voor die lisensie se vervaldatum hernu word nie, moet die lisensie gekanselleer word en ’n nuwe aansoek moet ingedien word. In die verlede het die polisie hernuwingsaansoeke verwerk, selfs al het die lisensie reeds verval, grotendeels om wapeneienaars tegemoet te kom weens die polisie se chroniese agterstande.
    • Mabule se afdeling staan verskeie hofsake teen van vuurwapeneienaars wat om lisensies aansoek doen. Hood het drie onlangse hofbevele aan Rapport verskaf waar die hof die vuurwapenregister gedwing het om aansoeke te verwerk, maar volgens hom is dit steeds nie gedoen nie.
    • Strenger wetgewing oor vuurwapenbeheer is byna reg om parlement toe te gaan, het Nathi Nhleko, die minister van polisie, die afgelope week gesê. Dit is ’n poging om geweldsmisdaad te bekamp en “skuiwergate” toe te maak. Nhleko sê huidige wetgewing is nie voldoende nie omdat Suid-Afrikaners in vrees leef vir vuurwapens. Hy sê huidige wetgewing laat sommige mense toe om tot 5 000 vuurwapens te besit en by verskillende vuurwapenhandelaars ammunisie te koop om limiete te omseil.

    Hood het by die vergadering vir Mabule aangevat oor wat hy beleef as gebrekkige kommunikasie oor al dié aangeleenthede.
    Mabule het geweier om daarop te antwoord weens “hangende hofsake” teen die polisie.
    Volgens Hood was Mabule ongeskik en ontwykend. Hy het Mabule “dwaas” (“foolish”) genoem en ander het beswaar aangeteken, waarna Hood die woord terug*getrek het.
    Ná die vergadering het Mabule vir Hood genader. Volgens die prokureur het hy gedink die polisieman gaan sy blad kom skud.
    Maar Hood sê Mabule het hom drie keer gedreig en gesê “dit is nie die einde hiervan nie”. Die mans is uitmekaar *nadat ’n derde persoon tussenbeide getree het.
    “Mabule is ses maande in sy pos en hy het reeds gewys hy is onbevoeg. Sy optrede veroorsaak net meer en meer litigasie teen die polisie,” sê Hood.
    Mabule kon nie die afgelope week bereik word vir kommentaar nie.
    Lt.genl. Solomon Makgale, nasionale polisiewoordvoerder, het nie op skriftelike navrae gereageer nie.
    Babalwa Mbengo, sekretaresse van die portefeuljekomitee wat Hood se klag moes ontvang, kon nie bevestig dat sy dit gekry het nie omdat sy die afgelope week saam met die res van die parlement se administratiewe personeellede gestaak het.
    Francois Beukman, voorsitter van dié komitee, het nie op *herhaaldelike boodskappe gereageer nie.
    scarstens@rapport.co.za
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    Default Re: ‪#‎Mabulemustfall

    Quote Originally Posted by camouflage762 View Post
    Hy sê huidige wetgewing laat sommige mense toe om tot 5 000 vuurwapens te besit
    If you can afford R30m+ on a gun collection you're probably not the type of guy commiting house breakings and hijacks...

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    Does anyone know of a single person with 5000 firearms lice3nsed to his name?

    My guess is that it most probably refers to a gun shop owner who runs a shop in his person (if that is possible) or that they mistakenly refer to a gun shop with 5000 firearms instead of a person. Furthermore, I have heard that some army personnel have their unit's firearms registered to themselves; there is apparently one person here in Potch Army base with 120 R4's registered to himself. And then there are a few museums with firearms.

    Not all the CFR personnel are educated and on the height of things and they have been known to make statistical etc mistakes. That could be the source of such a figure.

    (Whoever it is, and if it is true - I envy the guy! )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ds J View Post
    Does anyone know of a single person with 5000 firearms lice3nsed to his name?

    My guess is that it most probably refers to a gun shop owner who runs a shop in his person (if that is possible) or that they mistakenly refer to a gun shop with 5000 firearms instead of a person. Furthermore, I have heard that some army personnel have their unit's firearms registered to themselves; there is apparently one person here in Potch Army base with 120 R4's registered to himself. And then there are a few museums with firearms.

    Not all the CFR personnel are educated and on the height of things and they have been known to make statistical etc mistakes. That could be the source of such a figure.

    (Whoever it is, and if it is true - I envy the guy! )
    Yeah, sad thing is, we here know that this may be the case, but this is now used to scaremonger the populace again, and use it as cover for their plans to disarm us :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ds J View Post
    Does anyone know of a single person with 5000 firearms lice3nsed to his name?
    There is no such person. The hasn't stopped the minister from repeatedly stating, even in parliament, that it is a sports shooter who has used a "loophole" in the FCA to license 5,000 firearms, and that this "loophole" must be closed: http://www.gunsite.co.za/forums/show...islation/page2

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    Wow -- what a terrible experience that must have been. Sadly this type of behaviour seems to be indicative of a number of "bad apples" in the SAPS and the way they seem to believe they can behave when dealing with the general public.

    I agree that Brig. Mabule needs to be taken to task and, if needs be, disciplined by his superiors within the SAPS. This type of behaviour is simply unacceptable!

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