Powder limits

[jehan]

4 years later and assume nothing has changed :(

[Cockroach]

4 years later and assume nothing has changed :(

Nope

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[Paul]

4 years later and assume nothing has changed :(

SAPS are notorious for ignoring legislation they find inconvenient.

[oafpatroll]

SAPS are notorious for ignoring legislation they find inconvenient.

They're not shy about ignoring judgements either. How anyone is able to regard them as a 'law enforcement agency' is beyond me.

[Paul]

They're not shy about ignoring judgements either. How anyone is able to regard them as a 'law enforcement agency' is beyond me.

Well... to be fair... nobody actually does.

Their sole purpose in life is to provide case numbers for insurance claim purposes.

[oafpatroll]

Well... to be fair... nobody actually does.

Their sole purpose in life is to provide case numbers for insurance claim purposes.

Gold. Other than them obstructing my FA license applications the only other service I received from them in the last 10 years was to provide me with a case number when my wheelie bins were stolen and after I got t-boned by a taxi.

[bluefronted]

Yeah, my local will probably give me all the cans they have if I pay for it. At another shop I was asked for a S16 license when I bought more than two tins.

Same at the Shop i buy from. You pay you take

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[StanCT]

Managed to find this.... http://www.gov.za/sites/www.gov.za/files/27820_0.pdf

Users of smokeless powder
17. (1 ) Any person who is in possession of one or more valid firearm licences
issued in terms of the Firearms Control Act, 2000, may obtain, keep and
use smokeless powder for the sole purpose of reloading cartridges for use
in his or her licensed firearm.
(2) A person contemplated in sub-regulation (l), may keep on his or her
premises smokeless powder, provided that the net mass of smokeless
28 No.27820 GOVERNMENT GAZETTE, 22 JULY 2005
powder does not exceed 2,5 kilograms.
The Chief Inspector may authorise a dedicated hunter or dedicated sports
person to obtain and keep on his or her premises smokeless powder with
a net mass not exceeding ten kilograms, provided that such hunter or
sports person provides the Chief Inspector with a written application and
with certified copies of all his or her licences, permits or authorisations to
possess firearms and proof that he or she is such a dedicated hunter or
sports person.
If the premises referred to in sub-regulations (2) and (3) are shared by
other licensed persons, dedicated hunters or dedicated sports persons as
contemplated in these Regulations, each such person may keep the
quantities prescribed, provided that no more than the quantities provided
for may be kept in a single safe or sturdy cabinet or similar container.
(a) The smokeless powder must be stored and locked away in a safe
or sturdy cabinet or similar container on the premises; and
(b) no smoking or the production of a flame is allowed where the safe,
sturdy cabinet or similar container containing the smokeless powder
is kept.
Smokeless powder obtained in terms of sub-regulations (1) and (3), may
be transported by a vehicle not licensed in terms of regulation 32(1), to a
place of storage: Provided that -
(a) the powder is transported inside the vehicle;
(b) the vehicle proceeds directly from the supplier to the place of
storage;
(c) the container may not under any circumstances be opened en
route; and
(d) no smoking is allowed in or on the vehicle.
A person obtaining smokeless powder in terms of sub-regulations (1) and
(3) must -
(a) produce his or her licences to possess a firearm, permission issued
in terms of sub-regulation (3), if applicable, and his or her identity
document;
(b) furnish his or her physical address and the address at which the
powder will be kept to the dealer or a person acting on behalf of
such dealer; and
(c) accept the powder acquired only if it is packed in accordance with
regulation 16(3).
.
STAATSKOERANT, 22 JULIE 2005 No. 27820 29
A person keeping smokeless powder in terms of these Regulations may
reload cartridges for firearms: Provided that -
the reloaded cartridges are for use in his or her licensed firearms
only and may not be supplied to any other person; and
all possible precautions are taken to prevent injury to persons.
If a person is found to be unfit to possess a firearm in terms of the
Firearms Control Act, 2000, or any other statute or common law,
any smokeless powder in his or her possession will be forfeited to
the State.
He or she must declare such possession to an inspector, who must
take possession of such smokeless powder, and dispose thereof.
Nitrocellulose propellants and primers must be stored in separate storage

Greetings all,

Are there any dedicated hunters or sports shooters present who have taken advantage of the 10kg limit provision highlighted above, and gone through the process of applying for approval to possess propellant quantity that would thus exceed the legally prescribed standard 2.4kg limit?

My thinking is that it might sometimes be advantageous to be able to buy some extra tins of say a scarce powder, if an opportunity presented itself, but which might then take me over my 2.4kgs.

[cockroach01]

Greetings all,

Are there any dedicated hunters or sports shooters present who have taken advantage of the 10kg limit provision highlighted above, and gone through the process of applying for approval to possess propellant quantity that would thus exceed the legally prescribed standard 2.4kg limit?

My thinking is that it might sometimes be advantageous to be able to buy some extra tins of say a scarce powder, if an opportunity presented itself, but which might then take me over my 2.4kgs.

No, as that act is not yet promulgated. They still have not sorted out the regulations

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[Paul]

No, as that act is not yet promulgated. They still have not sorted out the regulations

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The new (2005!!!) Act has been promulgated (published in the GG) but has not yet been put into force. So... for almost 20 years the wishes of the people (as endorsed and expressed by Parliament) have been ignored by SAPS (the Chief Director of Explosives is a SAPS entity)... almost as bad as the FCA of 2000 which took four years to partially put into force (we're still waiting for the electronic connectivity), and the 5 year validity period of dealers licences which SAPS insists must be renewed annually!

SAPS really is an anti-democratic, obstructive and corrupt hinderance. They deserve to be disbanded.