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    Default New publication on ballistic fingerprinting by David Klatzow

    The copyright owner has kindly sent us a copy of this newly released publication on ballistic fingerprinting by David Klatzow.

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    We would like to thank the author, editor, copyright owners and all who made this publication possible, for making this available to our community.

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    Default Re: New publication on ballistic fingerprinting by David Klatzow

    Thanks Admin, this looks like an interesting read.

    I was quite horrified when Ballistic fingerprinting found its way into the FCA amendment Act. Anyone know what the status is currently? Has this been dropped from the amendments?

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    Default Re: New publication on ballistic fingerprinting by David Klatzow

    Quote Originally Posted by tobie View Post
    Thanks Admin, this looks like an interesting read.

    I was quite horrified when Ballistic fingerprinting found its way into the FCA amendment Act. Anyone know what the status is currently? Has this been dropped from the amendments?
    Nobody knows. The Secretary of Police has kept ALL the stakeholders in the dark about what is included in the Bill which is before Parliament. IMHO this is unconstitutional and unlawful as public consultation and stakeholder involvement is supposed to be a Constitutional imperative, but whadda I know...

    By launching this report now, a subsequent release of an Amendment Bill containing the ballistic fingerprinting rubbish will be adding fuel to a well-laid fire.

    OTOH we (the firearms community) have been warning Parliament of the lack of scientific credibility of ballistic fingerprinting since the Firearm Summit in March 2015, so this utterly and completely vindicates our position, and if the Bill DOES NOT contain the ballistic fingerprinting junk science it will be a massive victory for the firearms community.
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    Default Re: New publication on ballistic fingerprinting by David Klatzow

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    Nobody knows. The Secretary of Police has kept ALL the stakeholders in the dark about what is included in the Bill which is before Parliament. IMHO this is unconstitutional and unlawful as public consultation and stakeholder involvement is supposed to be a Constitutional imperative, but whadda I know...
    No public consultation, no law...?

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    Default Re: New publication on ballistic fingerprinting by David Klatzow

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoo Keeper View Post
    No public consultation, no law...?
    I'm fairly certain that they'll try to sneak this past constitutional muster by claiming that they have consulted with us in the past (2015) and taken our comments then into account. That is more than two years ago and should be irrelevant now.
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    Default Re: New publication on ballistic fingerprinting by David Klatzow

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    I'm fairly certain that they'll try to sneak this past constitutional muster by claiming that they have consulted with us in the past (2015) and taken our comments then into account. That is more than two years ago and should be irrelevant now.
    I don't think that will suffice. They should have to start the entire process all over again.

    It may be necessary to interdict the bill going to parliament?

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    Default Re: New publication on ballistic fingerprinting by David Klatzow

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoo Keeper View Post
    I don't think that will suffice. They should have to start the entire process all over again.

    It may be necessary to interdict the bill going to parliament?
    Because they haven't consulted with us it has already gone to Parliament who will release it for public comment prior to it being assented to.

    Our point is that a period for public comment can never be 'sufficient consultation', under the circumstances, and this report will aid us greatly in proving that point.
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