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Thread: Looking at an AR
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04-05-2020, 07:51 #11
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04-05-2020, 08:51 #13
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Re: Looking at an AR
I would give the DM4 a miss, if the build quality hasn't improved. A good friend of mine had a 10.5" DM4, he had non-stop issues with his and his was for serious use as a responding security officer for high risk ops. He eventually sold his and replaced it.
Personally, I would look at either an Aero Precision AR or a Troy SPC rifle all of which will be in your price bracket.
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04-05-2020, 09:55 #14
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Re: Looking at an AR
Who sells the Troy rifles?
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Re: Looking at an AR
Is the DPMS any good? Saw one for 14 K and its almost like I want to need it
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04-05-2020, 12:01 #17
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Re: Looking at an AR
Been reading some old DM4 threads and it seems the DM4 wasn't built to shoot 5.56x45 NATO surplus?!
Is this true? If so, it seems like a daft thing to do, limiting your firearm like that.
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Re: Looking at an AR
To put that in perspective my original M&P15 Sport 1, has see just over 15k rounds now. With good ammunition at 100m I was able to shoot groups of just at 1 moa from a bench. The gun will now only shoot a 3ish moa group with the same ammunition (same batch, etc that I have stored), and with my reloads using older Frontier bullets it is doing 4ish moa, with Hornady bullets around 3-3.5ish moa.
NSW CRANE released a report when originally testing the M4 and the CQB (I think is the correct term, the 10.5) and it said that accuracy drop off was to be expected from 10k rounds, and a maximum usable life of 20 - 25k rounds was to be expected.
I can't remember the exact figures of what was determined to be an acceptable usable accuracy standard from the guns though.
How many people have we really heard of in SA who are Sport Shooters that can say they have even put 10k rounds through their 5.56 rifles? There can't be a huge number.
I'm actually looking to rebarrel my Sport 1 in the near future as although it has taken me 6 years to shoot that amount of rounds, it was really only in the first 3, and I have slowed down a ton since then. A new barrel will last me many more years.
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