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    The Battle Belt: 3 Essential Tips for Carrying Gear

    Discussion on ways to carry your gear. In particular, I’m going to dig into the so-called Battle Belt. You might also see battle belts referred to as War Belts, though I see the term less and less often. I won’t go so far as to call it webbing, a term associated with the Brits, because that actually describes another kind of system that I’ll cover in another post. Similarly, I shy away from calling them duty belts, because that also describes a slightly different setup.

    With this post, I want to focus specifically on the battle belt. But here’s the thing, how you configure your belt, if you use one at all, is a highly personal thing. I don’t want to be like every other article that prescribes a solution for you regardless of your needs.

    Instead, I’m going to walk you through my own belt’s evolution and why I’ve made the decisions I have.

    Background of the Battle Belt

    It’s a little difficult to place the origin of the modern-day battle belt. If you recall, carrying military equipment around the waist has been practiced for thousands of years. It was the default carrying method for the US military all the way up through the well-known ALICE (All-Purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment) era in the 1970s and 80s.

    ALICE, if you’ve never met her, consisted of a gun belt and suspenders. Around the belt, you attached ammunition pouches, canteens, entrenching tool (E-tool), and other personal equipment.

    The standard load was three magazines in each pouch, for a total of six. It was common, especially in the long-range reconnaissance units, to double that and more.

    A pistol, if issued, replaced a canteen. The pouches stayed in place using metal keepers. The hooks on the back of the harness were notorious for digging into your skin. These earned the name “meat hooks” after this tendency, and were usually replaced with 550 cord in the field.

    After ALICE, we started adding more things to the chest using load-bearing vests (LBV). That eventually became individual body armor. In time, we just attached pouches on the armor’s exterior using the newly-developed MOLLE webbing. By the way, MOLLE stands for Modular Lightweight Load-Carrying Equipment.

    Battle belts probably came about as a middle-ground solution. As things picked up in Afghanistan and Iraq in the early 2000s, not everyone needed to walk around wearing their whole body armor system all of the time.

    Instead of the whole armor system, wearing a belt equipped with some minimum fighting essentials provided an easy-on-easy-off way to carry fighting gear.

    Setting Up A Belt

    Before I get to my own evolution, I wanted to talk about some quick philosophical points I’ve learned over time.

    Battle belts are for making holes and plugging holes
    If it’s heavy enough to need suspenders, rethink your approach
    Avoid putting things on your legs if you can

    Make Holes and Plug Holes

    The first point, making holes and plugging holes, means that battle belts should focus on fighting gear and a medical kit. Obviously, that’s not a hard and fast rule as I violate it by adding a knife and canteen pouch. But the principle here is that you shouldn’t be trying to carry a ton of stuff on a battle belt.

    The goal is for a lightweight minimum viable fighting kit. At some point, if you add enough weight, you’ll need a suspension system.

    Suspenders and Weight

    As a battle belt gets heavier, you need suspension to help distribute the load and keep it in place. Once you add suspenders, you effectively turn your belt into modern-day ALICE load-bearing equipment (LBE). I’m not saying this is inherently bad, but you’re getting past the original intent of the battle belt as a minimum fighting load to supplement other equipment. If you’re getting into the realm of full-on webbing, then there are other options that work even better.

    Part of the reason I want you to avoid suspenders on a battle belt is that it will absolutely get in the way of other gear. Remember, the battle belt is supplemental to things like chest rigs and plate carriers. If you have a belt with suspenders, and then a chest rig, and then a small backpack, you’re in strap hell and liable to get tangled up.

    Avoiding Drop Legs

    The third point, drop leg rigs. The trend is slowly dying, but drop leg holsters and pouches suck. For a while, it seemed like everyone was doing it because it was the cool thing to do. I think it peaked with HSGI releasing the Costa Leg Rig. Everyone rushed out to get the new hot thing, but quickly realized carrying a few pounds on your thigh just wasn’t a good idea.

    Here’s the deal: adding weight to your legs increases your energy expenditure by 4% per pound and makes running very awkward and uncomfortable.

    If you must use some kind of drop-leg configuration, and I do at times, then you need to situate as high as possible on your leg. I also recommend Safariland’s UBL system, which is just a hard plastic connector that lowers the holster a few inches without attaching it to the leg. Yes, you may still see some people use a leg strap, but this is for stabilization and not load-bearing. The weight is still on the belt.

    A Note on Allowing for Personal Preference

    This is my catch-all to say that these rules are not set in stone. Everyone has a preference or how and where they want to carry their stuff. I added a utility knife to mine as well as a canteen/utility pouch. Some people elect to carry dump pouches, others might attach a radio. All of that is fine as long as you keep the weight manageable.

    Ultimately, what you carry on your belt is a reflection of your own needs. What works for me probably isn’t ideal for you, and vice versa.
    my current battle belt setup
    After 9 years of experimentation, this is the battle belt configuration I've settled on

    My Personal Belt

    Before I talk about my belt’s history, let’s look at the current configuration. I say current because experimentation is a constant thing. An underlying philosophy of mine is to accept the possibility that I might be wrong and always look for reasons to change.

    This battle belt is the end result of nine years of experimentation, training, and competition. It’s not super minimalist, nor is it a heavyweight. I put it in the “medium weight” category.

    The inner belt is a Viking Tactics (VTAC) instructor belt with cobra attachment. The outer MOLLE belt is the VTAC Brokos belt. I bought these items in 2010, so they are fairly old at this point. A lot of other companies have since come to market with similar configurations and similar or lower price points.

    From left to right, these are the pouches:

    Tactical Tailor Magna double pistol magazine pouch
    HSGI Taco
    HSGI Taco
    Bleeder/Blowout kit by HSGI with an attached tourniquet
    Tactical Tailor canteen/utility pouch
    Becker BK-10 Crewman knife in a Kydex sheath
    CZ P07 pistol in a KT-Mech Akela holster

    How I Arrived Here

    I was first introduced to the battle belt concept not through my military service, but by the internet. Like most enthusiasts, I browsed the various picture threads on message boards. One of the longest-running is still going at M4carbinet.net. That particular thread started in 2006 and is still getting new pictures. The discussion provides a nice glimpse of the evolution of peoples kit.

    After shooting my first “tactical” match in Montana, I quickly realized that I needed a way to carry extra magazines to the line. The picture threads provided the inspiration.

    My first iteration wasn’t too far from what it looks like now. It had the same pistol magazine pouches, the same two tacos, and a Safariland 3285 for my Beretta 92A1.

    That holster is discontinued, but it was the only one on the market at the time that would accept my Beretta with a TLR-1s on it.
    Old gear setup, including a battle belt
    My original battle belt configuration appears at the bottom of this photo, though with a different holster than the Safariland it usually sported

    I chose the Magna pouches and tacos because they work with a variety of magazines. The magnas have magnets in them that provide retention on any metal-walled magazine. To date, I’ve used them with Beretta, CZ, FNS, and 1911 mags. All worked well.

    The HSGI Tacos also allowed me to use regular AR-15 mags and 308 mags for both my M1A and 308 AR. That’s a lot of flexibility, and I highly recommend them.

    I also attached an Emdom USA dump pouch, which I’ll circle back to in a minute.

    I shot that configuration for years until I started learning more about small unit tactics.

    Enter Max Velocity Tactical

    Probably around 2014 or so, my interest in skillsets outside of shooting alone began to grow. A lot of Googling and blog browsing eventually led me to a series of articles by Max over at MVT. I wouldn’t get to actually attend a course of his for three more years, but his articles were free to read.

    His approach was different. It wasn’t about being flashy and showing off pristine pictures for the internet. Rather, he spoke from a place of been-there-done-that and trained others to do it as well.

    At the time, he was writing primarily from his experience in the British military, known for its webbing kits. The battle belt configuration he advocated wasn’t too far off from that. It’s also the one he wrote about his first book, Contact!, which was the predecessor to his tactical manual I previously reviewed.

    So I gave it a try.
    battle belt version 2
    My second iteration of the battle belt, working much more like ALICE than the lightweight kit I'd started with.
    Battle Belt Version 2

    The next iteration included suspenders. I reused the same TT Magna pistol mag pouches and HSGI tacos but attached two TT Universal Mag pouches. One on the outside of each taco. That brought me up to carrying eight rifle mags, stacked four deep, and two pistol mags all on one side of my body.

    In hindsight, that was pretty imbalanced.

    The belt also included a first aid kit, two canteen pouches, a utility pouch, and my holster.

    Living in California at the time, I honestly couldn’t give this kind of rig a good shakedown. I had no 30-round magazines to stuff in the pouches and test. Feedback from others I showed it to was pretty consistent, though. It looked well thought out, but probably heavy and bulky on the sides.
    battle belt setup version 2 rear
    battle belt setup version 2 front

    I also ran into another problem. The TT Fight Light harness I used for suspenders had a drag handle on the back. That in of itself isn’t a bad thing, but the attachment loops on the belt didn’t appear like they’d be strong enough to hold up to dragging someone my size.

    Battle Belt Version 3

    What shaking out I could do of Version 2 made me realize that the imbalance wasn’t going to work. Eight rifle magazines on one side was simply too much. Version 3 was an effort to shift things around.
    Version 3 of my Battle Belt

    The notable changes here were moving the pistol magazines to the right side next to the holster, deleting one of the tacos, deleting a canteen, and adding a knife.

    Moving the location of the pistol magazines wasn’t ideal for speed and accessibility, but it worked well enough for just carrying ammunition. I considered moving one of the triple mag pouches to that location, but it got in the way of squatting, kneeling, and made going prone just a tad awkward.

    But not awkward enough that I wouldn’t try it again in another configuration for another post.

    Looking back, this configuration wasn’t all that bad from a practical standpoint. It was slightly better balanced, though not by a lot, and felt a bit more streamlined. The big reason I switched away from it was my decision to pick up an accompanying chest rig.
    battle belt setup version 4 with rifle
    battle belt setup version 4
    Back to Max

    Not long before Version 3, Max revised his battle belt ideas towards a much lighter-weight configuration paired with a plate carrier or chest rig. He called this the Lite Battle Belt, and it stemmed from his time training civilians and considering other logistics, like riding around in vehicles.

    The philosophy is that this BB [battle belt] is light enough to not be an encumbrance, even while carrying out normal chores. Yet it allows you to carry enough gear to be useful in a fight. This is not a full BB as I have posted about in the past, which is more specialized towards infantry dismounted operations. Between a BB lite, a VERSA chest rig, and some form of patrol/assault daypack, you can carry all you need.

    You can wear the BB Lite all the time, with the rifle either on you or accessible at short notice. You can simply wear it on its own for short duration range time/training where it allows you a basic ammunition load. As the situation changes, or perhaps you go out on patrol, you can add the VERSA chest rig ( and perhaps a plate carrier) as you feel the need.

    The BB Lite will not interfere with riding in vehicles or simply sitting down on watch / QRF. Worn with the chest rig it is also vehicle/chair compatible. For me, it is the ideal gear layer system.
    – Max Velocity Tactical

    The idea shifted to using the battle belt less as a do-all fighting implement, but more of a minimum-capability system that you could keep with you all of the time without being encumbered.

    When you think about this, it’s really what life would look like in Scenario X. Your job isn’t going to be planning patrols and advancing to contact on a daily basis. Instead, you go about your daily life doing chores, taking care of family, and working with your community. A minimalist configuration supports those activities without getting in the way.

    What Others Have to Say

    Aside from Max, whose ideas I have a lot of respect for, there are others I’ve drawn information from as well.

    Jeff Gurwitch, former Army Special Forces, outlined his thoughts for SWAT Magazine in 2016. He echoed a lot of the sentiment Max does for keeping it fairly minimal but recommends a utility pouch for miscellaneous items.

    I also closely followed the reports of guys on Lightfighter.net as they rotated in and out of training. Everyone came back with similar answers: it’s all about what you need it to do at a minimum, nothing more. When that moment comes, add a plate carrier/chest rig and a backpack.

    The trend for huge loads on so-called war belts peaked around 2011. By 2016, it seemed to be slipping back to a scaled-down minimal fighting kit.
    battle belt setup version 4
    Battle Belt Version 4, which is about how it exists now. I took this configuration to MVT's small unit tactics class. I did swap out to a different first aid kit and added a dump pouch for the class, but it's fundamentally the same as it appears here.
    Back to the Current Battle Belt

    My belt, as it stands now, is a mixture of all the advice as well as my own experience attending Max’s training, which I wrote about over in this article.

    The knife joined belt because it’s just too useful of a tool not to keep handy. Honestly, a good fixed-blade field knife should be part of everyone’s kit. I also carry a folding knife in a pocket for small tasks.

    I added the Tactical Tailor canteen/utility pouch for incidentals. A 1L Nalgene or standard 32 oz canteen fits in there nicely. If I don’t mind carrying the canteen in a small backpack, I can use the pouch for small survival essentials, binoculars, chemlights, or extra mags. An enclosed utility pouch is just a handy way to carry some extra stuff
    battle belt version 5
    The Current Belt, which removed the Beretta holster in favor of my CZ and replaced the traditional canteen pouch with an enclosed version

    I wavered back and forth on dump pouches for years. Sometimes I used it, sometimes I didn’t. I always thought there was a lot of utility in having an easy place to dump mags, water bottles, or other misc junk, but I just never warmed up to having the thing dangling off of me.

    I would feel comfortable deleting one of the rifle magazine pouches to gain some other capability, like a radio. There’s also the option to add pistol taco pouches on the right side to carry either two more pistol magazines or a flashlight and multitool.
    Configuring Your Own Battle Belt

    So now we come to it, it’s your turn. I’m not terribly interested in cosplaying as an operator, but that doesn’t mean we can’t take a few lessons with us. Something like our fictional Scenario X makes you consider your minimum essentials.

    What do I recommend? That really depends on your needs and weapon choices. Remember:

    Battle belts are for making holes and plugging holes
    If it’s heavy enough to need suspenders, rethink your approach
    Avoid putting things on your legs if you can

    I generally suggest 1-2 rifle magazines and a first aid kit at a minimum. If you want to carry a pistol, and I see no reason not to, then add the holster and 2-4 pistol magazine pouches.

    A knife never hurts but is by no means a requirement. After that, I would suggest no more than one additional hydration, utility, or dump pouch. Again, pick one of those and accept the tradeoff. You do not want this belt to be too heavy.

    As a side note, I want to separate this concept from putting equipment directly on your pants belt, which I refer to as a Duty Belt. This is certainly a valid technique as well, and one I might try eventually. But I consider that method to be a slightly different approach and outside the scope of this article.
    Last edited by KK20; 22-05-2020 at 03:31. Reason: https://www.everydaymarksman.co/equipment/battle-belt-guide/
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    That's a good read.
    I have managed to convince some of my farmer friends, who now have a duty belt next to their beds for that "Bump in the night"

    Put the belt on and go. No looking for a torch, spare mags etc. All already on the belt and waiting
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    Quite informative. Combat gear evolved a lot over the years. During the bush war in what is now Zimbabwe, Our Unit used a belt with 4 mag pouches (8 mags) 2 water bottles, knife and emergency med kit. The rest of the kit was attached to a separate harness (yoke type) As soon as contact was made the yoke with kit was released and you could move faster with just the stuff on the belt. You get quite thirsty during combat situations so the water was essential. After the contact you went back and retrieved the stuff you ditched.
    I also agree with MyLani that you should keep your gear available next to the bed. Other members of the family should also have back pack type ready with some emergency stuff.

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    Nice article. I've got lots of kits and combinations for different scenarious: my room entry kit looks very different from a recon kit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK-Gunner View Post
    Nice article. I've got lots of kits and combinations for different scenarious: my room entry kit looks very different from a recon kit...
    Shall we move over to Back in Finland for more on it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KK20 View Post
    Shall we move over to Back in Finland for more on it?
    Eventually. A big subject to cover, lots of photos current and antiquated. will take some time, but I'll be back with this subject for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyLani View Post
    That's a good read.
    I have managed to convince some of my farmer friends, who now have a duty belt next to their beds for that "Bump in the night"

    Put the belt on and go. No looking for a torch, spare mags etc. All already on the belt and waiting
    I am a slow learner ...

    I would like to set one up for my entry / exit of work and home.
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    Default Re: Living Next Door To ALICE

    Also enjoyed this post, some good info share here.

    The 'make holes & plug holes' analogy was a thought provoker..

    Thanks for taking the time to post

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