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    Default Re: .30-06 excessive meat damage

    I have hunted with a 30-06 all my life. Have shot hundreds of Impala with it. That meat damage and your ammo setup and shot placement seems about right. But is has nothing to do with a 30-06.

    What I have done over the years to assist with this are as follows:

    1. Use other shot placements.
    2. Load with premium bullets at not too high velocity. 180 gr at 2400 fps are seriously effective on Impala.
    3. For a long time I loaded 220 gr at 2100 fps. It reduced damage dramatically.
    4. Don't stress too much about it. It was an effective shot and good hunting without taking risks. How much meat have you lost? Not a lot compared to a wounded animal.
    5. I tried 155 gr at 2500 fps as well. It worked, but still more meat damage than 220 gr or 180 gr at about 2400 fps. Soft 180 gr still give a lot meat damage at 2400 fps.

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    Default Re: .30-06 excessive meat damage

    ^^^took your 30-06 and made it a 308

    The messor approves...........

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    Default Re: .30-06 excessive meat damage

    Net so Messor. Net So.

    30-06 is generally too much gun for Impala. Something slower is better for Impala at Bushveld distances. 9,3 x 62 = less meat damage than 30-06 both in std "factory" loads is what I have seen. That said, a 220 gr at 2400 fps works really nice on Eland and a .308 struggle to get that done.

    The largest percentage meat waste I ever witnessed on an Impala was a young ram shot with a .22 Hornet at 25 yards right on the shoulder bone. I love to use my .44 Magnum lever gun for body shots. 240 gr @ 1600 fps. I am waiting on a license for a 9 mm Ruger PC Carbine. Would like to try that on Impala. Meat damage should be minimal. (I can hunt lawfully with a semi-auto under my circumstances.)

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    Default Re: .30-06 excessive meat damage

    It’s a hell of a concept though.

    Statistically nobody shoots 220gr bullets since it’s got no advantage over any proper 180gr bonded/premium, which you can also download to lower velocities, but if you download it too much then with really strong bullets expansion will be lacking in small game.
    Then the folk shooting mono’s shoot even lighter bullets that penetrates every bit as deep but with less recoil, but they need to up the speed for proper expansion and if you hit an animal directly on the shoulder the exact same thing happens.

    All this while people have been avoiding that problem for the last 100 years by just shooting a standard cup and core slowly, it opens up readily and does little meat damage. This was of course before people started inventing problems for themselves when it came to hunting, before marketing literally made people stop using tried and tested methods because they were told it doesn’t work anymore.

    Maar ag wat, party dae skud ek maar net my kop en sluk nog a dop.

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    Default Re: .30-06 excessive meat damage

    Quote Originally Posted by Marc05 View Post
    Precisely why I use 7.62x39 for hunting in bushveld conditions, much less meat damage on classic hart/lung shot.
    Slight hijack here, but what are you loading?

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    Default Re: .30-06 excessive meat damage

    Hornady 123gr soft point interlock bullets, S265 and Lapua cases. Howa mini action. Rifle also used for junior hunter training as it is light and low recoiling. About 13 impala have been taken with it all chest shot. All expired either on the spot or a few meters away. On average meat damage is a handful of meat for the dogs. Worst damage was when I tried Sierra 150gr pro hunters, one of the junior hunters shot an impala on a 45 degree frontal shot striking the front shoulder bone. The bullet failed and resulted in cup and core separation. Very surprising for the low speed of 150gr "303" bullet in 7.62x39 case, around 2100 fps. Needless to say, did not use Sierra Pohunters again. Compared to 308, 303 and 30-06 also used by junior hunters on the hunting phase the 7.62x39 had the least meat damage and 0 wounded animals partly due to its low recoiling and ease to shoot.

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    Default Re: .30-06 excessive meat damage

    I haven't seen any S265 around, all I have available is S321 and S&B 123gr SP bullets.
    Do you perhaps have a recipe for S321?

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    Thumbs up Re: .30-06 excessive meat damage

    Quote Originally Posted by Marc05 View Post
    Compared to 308, 303 and 30-06 also used by junior hunters on the hunting phase the 7.62x39 had the least meat damage and 0 wounded animals partly due to its low recoiling and ease to shoot.
    Interesting
    Thank you
    The notorious AK round has a more benign side to it

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    Default Re: .30-06 excessive meat damage

    I'm on the last of my S265, obtained Hodgdon CFE BLK, works great on 300 blackout and 7.62x39!

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