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    Default Re: Interdict against SAPS going after those with expired licences knocked down

    Quote Originally Posted by Bowhunter View Post
    Have you been through the process under the FCA and licensed a firearm?
    Yes, like I said we do what we have to do. But I sure as heck don't like it or defend those laws.

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    Default Re: Interdict against SAPS going after those with expired licences knocked down

    Quote Originally Posted by SoldierMan View Post
    Yes, like I said we do what we have to do. But I sure as heck don't like it or defend those laws.
    Did I defend the laws?

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    Default Re: Interdict against SAPS going after those with expired licences knocked down

    Quote Originally Posted by Bowhunter View Post
    Did I defend the laws?
    It's the internet, maybe we misunderstood each other.

    Anyway, IMO you should be allowed to buy a second (or third, etc.) pistol, an AR or whatever without jumping through hoops. Our laws are draconian and IMO the ANC are dead set on a no-firearms for SA citizens world. They are taking baby steps (well the last wasn't so baby...), but steps nonetheless toward that end.

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    Default Re: Interdict against SAPS going after those with expired licences knocked down

    I do hate that they need to run a background check on you (CRC) everytime I apply. Even if it is weeks or a few months apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luker View Post
    Blame me. And everyone like me who jumped through the hoops to maintain our
    status as legal firearm owners. A collective, rogue element from the old school who
    obey the law and its time frames. And the younger, rogue generation who were taught
    law - abiding principles - by the old school.
    A LOT of people in National Socialist Germany obeyed the law
    Did THAT make them ... Good loyal and law abiding citizens ? Undoubtedly YES !
    At WHAT point are you ( and others ) going to understand that obeying a BAD law does you ( as well as all the rest of us NO good !

    As far as I am concerned ( just my opinion ) the private person in SA NEVER really "owns" a firearm !
    You merely -- rent it from the STATE !
    Even although you have paid for it with your own good money
    Seeing as the state can deprive you of that "right" and YOUR property -- without compensation
    Every three / five / ten years or whenever they fell like it !

    Please tell me -- old school law-abiding citizen if I am correct -- or not ?

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    Default Re: Interdict against SAPS going after those with expired licences knocked down

    Quote Originally Posted by Brenneke View Post
    A LOT of people in National Socialist Germany obeyed the law
    Did THAT make them ... Good loyal and law abiding citizens ? Undoubtedly YES !
    At WHAT point are you ( and others ) going to understand that obeying a BAD law does you ( as well as all the rest of us NO good !

    As far as I am concerned ( just my opinion ) the private person in SA NEVER really "owns" a firearm !
    You merely -- rent it from the STATE !
    Even although you have paid for it with your own good money
    Seeing as the state can deprive you of that "right" and YOUR property -- without compensation
    Every three / five / ten years or whenever they fell like it !

    Please tell me -- old school law-abiding citizen if I am correct -- or not ?
    Tell us which bad laws you break in protest against them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenneke View Post
    A LOT of people in National Socialist Germany obeyed the law
    Did THAT make them ... Good loyal and law abiding citizens ? Undoubtedly YES !
    At WHAT point are you ( and others ) going to understand that obeying a BAD law does you ( as well as all the rest of us NO good !

    As far as I am concerned ( just my opinion ) the private person in SA NEVER really "owns" a firearm !
    You merely -- rent it from the STATE !
    Even although you have paid for it with your own good money
    Seeing as the state can deprive you of that "right" and YOUR property -- without compensation
    Every three / five / ten years or whenever they fell like it !

    Please tell me -- old school law-abiding citizen if I am correct -- or not ?
    Really is quite a bit different. Surely you can see that?

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    Default Re: Interdict against SAPS going after those with expired licences knocked down

    Quote Originally Posted by Brenneke View Post
    A LOT of people in National Socialist Germany obeyed the law
    Did THAT make them ... Good loyal and law abiding citizens ? Undoubtedly YES !
    At WHAT point are you ( and others ) going to understand that obeying a BAD law does you ( as well as all the rest of us NO good !

    As far as I am concerned ( just my opinion ) the private person in SA NEVER really "owns" a firearm !
    You merely -- rent it from the STATE !
    Even although you have paid for it with your own good money
    Seeing as the state can deprive you of that "right" and YOUR property -- without compensation
    Every three / five / ten years or whenever they fell like it !

    Please tell me -- old school law-abiding citizen if I am correct -- or not ?
    Are you from GFSA or the State just here trying to catch us out advocating breaking the law?

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    Default Re: Interdict against SAPS going after those with expired licences knocked down

    Quote Originally Posted by Bowhunter View Post
    Are you from GFSA or the State just here trying to catch us out advocating breaking the law?
    I think it is just ignorance, or trolling, or both.

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    Default Re: Interdict against SAPS going after those with expired licences knocked down

    Quote Originally Posted by Brenneke View Post
    A LOT of people in National Socialist Germany obeyed the law
    Did THAT make them ... Good loyal and law abiding citizens ? Undoubtedly YES !
    At WHAT point are you ( and others ) going to understand that obeying a BAD law does you ( as well as all the rest of us NO good !

    As far as I am concerned ( just my opinion ) the private person in SA NEVER really "owns" a firearm !
    You merely -- rent it from the STATE !
    Even although you have paid for it with your own good money
    Seeing as the state can deprive you of that "right" and YOUR property -- without compensation
    Every three / five / ten years or whenever they fell like it !

    Please tell me -- old school law-abiding citizen if I am correct -- or not ?
    Must I assume then that you feel you have an obligation to disobey the law ?

    If you do, feel free to do so.

    Your membership on this forum will not garner support for your ideals. We are not obligated to do so.
    There are other forums that will welcome your views.

    Gun owners are a secondary association with no claims to primacy. In other words we are not rebels.

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