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    Default "Too Scared too Guard" wonder what GFSA RESPONSE would be?

    Johannesburg - Insiders in the private security industry say badly trained security guards are a crisis threatening the entire industry.
    They in particular slammed guards who responded to a crime in progress but were too scared to enter a property – rather choosing to sit safely in their cars or park further down the block and wait for back-up.
    “Companies do not provide a proactive approach, it is all reactive,” said one security consultant, one of the insiders who spoke to The Star exclusively.
    The consultant has worked in the industry for many years and wants to remain anonymous, as do others.
    An insider shared one company’s statistics for crimes in Joburg and also revealed there were hundreds of complaints from clients – usually because of a slow response.
    The statistics showed thousands of crime incidents a year, particularly house robberies and hijackings which took place almost daily.
    Consultants The Star spoke to saw the training of guards as a big problem.
    “There is general training on things like how to use a firearm, but it isn’t sufficient. As a result, many of the guards are not confident and they are filled with fear when they arrive at a scene,” according to one insider.
    Guards should be getting training on hostage situations and advanced self-defence, he believed.
    Founder of community crime-fighting organisation eBlockwatch Andre Snyman said nobody wanted to ask the uncomfortable questions.
    “Preventative measures can’t be happening on a large scale or we would see a decrease in the crime rate,” he noted.
    He said one needed to ask why armed-response guards stood back and waited outside a property, instead of going in and helping.
    “I believe a lot of companies’ mandates are to let the perpetrators go, and take care of the people.”

    Our contacts said many signed up for security after a crime incident.
    “When you have an armed robbery, the first response is to sell you better security measures. These can cost anywhere between R30 000 and R100 000.
    “Security companies make money out of people’s basic needs. It is a basic need to feel safe and they prey on that,” said an insider.
    One marketing technique used was to bring several patrol vehicles into an area when they wanted to sign up new clients. Once enough people had signed up, there would be only one vehicle to a suburb, manned by one security guard.
    “If customers complain, they are told to try and sign up more houses, so that another vehicle can be sent to the area,” a woman said.
    The consultants advised that the best security measure was to build relationships with your neighbours and keep your eyes open to any changes in the area.
    These insights into the industry come at a time when private security has been under the spotlight because of the controversial Private Security Industry Regulation Amendment Bill. It is one of the laws that went before President Jacob Zuma before the elections.

    While there were aspects of the bill people said were disastrous for the country (in particular the handing over of 51 percent of foreign companies to South Africans), there were elements of regulation they agreed must take place.
    An Institute for Race Relations (IRR) study this year showed that the number of security guards increased six times faster than police, and that robberies doubled. There are 445 000 registered guards and 270 000 public security officers.
    “The rapid growth in demand for private security seems to be driven by corresponding rises in house robberies – which grew by 100 percent – and business robberies – which grew by 200 percent – between 2003 and last year,” said Kerwin Lebone, a security researcher at the IRR.

    Johan Burger and Gareth Newham, from the Institute for Security Studies, in a presentation to Parliament on the proposed amendment bill, said the private security industry faced many shortcomings.
    “These include the non-registration of personnel and businesses, poor training, inadequate vetting and background checks, the issuing of firearms to persons who are not competent to use them and the failure to pursue criminal or disciplinary action against security personnel who break the law.
    “These are all credible and legitimate reasons for improving regulation.” their submission said.

    However, Burger said there were also many positive elements about private security.
    “It helps people to feel safer and guards have a better response time than the police.
    “They are also easier to contact because you have an alarm and panic button, whereas with the police you have to call them.”

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    Default Re: "Too Scared too Guard" wonder what GFSA RESPONSE would be?

    Given that the state is scared of the security industry (and all them guns) blah blah = new legislation to "save the country", no surprises to find Angelique Serrao (of DSG fame + fronting for people going after a certain other arms dealer) in the frontlines to further the cause of new regulations...!

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    Default Re: "Too Scared too Guard" wonder what GFSA RESPONSE would be?

    Unfortunately this is not surprising. We have the largest private security industry in the world, and when demand is as high as it is, the quality of the quantity supplied tends to drop as service providers try to keep up and cash in on it. Add to it that the security industry is an oligopoly, and the firms are well entrenched and competition is limited.

    My question: when will we stop deferring responsibility for our personal safety to the government and private enterprises? They are by their very nature almost purely reactive.

    You want proactive? Do it yourself.

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    Move to an area with CAP patrols. It is a non profit setup so no one is cashing in on the business. All the guards work in teams of two or more so they bring their own backup. They are ex military, police etc so they are already trained and continue to do more training every month.

    When a vehicle responds their are always more vehicles already on the way to offer more backup.

    They have plain clothes units patrolling on foot all the time gathering info. If you have casual laborers on your property they will run background checks on all of them and record their names. Should they have to respond to something they will immediately know who should and who should not be on the property.

    I do take responsibility for my own safety but it is nice to know those are the guys who are on their way to cover my arse if im in over my head.

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    Funny that.... Shows us how out of control things are.... Security is ineffective, so are SAPS in general....

    An Institute for Race Relations (IRR) study this year showed that the number of security guards increased six times faster than police, and that robberies doubled. There are 445 000 registered guards and 270 000 public security officers.
    “The rapid growth in demand for private security seems to be driven by corresponding rises in house robberies – which grew by 100 percent – and business robberies – which grew by 200 percent – between 2003 and last year,” said Kerwin Lebone, a security researcher at the IRR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L~C~G View Post
    Move to an area with CAP patrols. It is a non profit setup so no one is cashing in on the business. All the guards work in teams of two or more so they bring their own backup. They are ex military, police etc so they are already trained and continue to do more training every month.

    When a vehicle responds their are always more vehicles already on the way to offer more backup.

    They have plain clothes units patrolling on foot all the time gathering info. If you have casual laborers on your property they will run background checks on all of them and record their names. Should they have to respond to something they will immediately know who should and who should not be on the property.

    I do take responsibility for my own safety but it is nice to know those are the guys who are on their way to cover my arse if im in over my head.
    Problem: limited capacity and cost.

    How many areas offer these patrols, how available is property in these areas, and at what price? It's pretty obvious that there isn't much room for expansion, considering how few of these guys are around.

    Agreed, backup is nice, but they're not the first responders....and shouldn't be.

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    Yes sure, we should all take responsibility for our own protect. And I do. My armed response is not there to help me when I get attacked. I know that that will be my responsibility as I will be there and the response company will only come if I call them.

    My Response company is primarily there to protect my property when I am away from home. I set my alarm and hope that should a break in occur, the response team will give the burglars only limited time to cause me loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Murphy View Post
    Yes sure, we should all take responsibility for our own protect. And I do. My armed response is not there to help me when I get attacked. I know that that will be my responsibility as I will be there and the response company will only come if I call them.

    My Response company is primarily there to protect my property when I am away from home. I set my alarm and hope that should a break in occur, the response team will give the burglars only limited time to cause me loss.

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    I don't think anyone on this site would have it any other way

    Our fellow middle-class countrymen though...*sigh*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manservant View Post
    +1

    I don't think anyone on this site would have it any other way

    Our fellow middle-class countrymen though...*sigh*
    That is because we understand the limited capabilities of the average undertrained Response officer and realise that we can do much better for ourselves and therefor use them only for the limited protection that they can provide our property while we are unable to be present. However, the sheeple seem to believe that Armed Response companies employ super soldiers that will be there to protect them at a moments notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L~C~G View Post
    Move to an area with CAP patrols. It is a non profit setup so no one is cashing in on the business. All the guards work in teams of two or more so they bring their own backup. They are ex military, police etc so they are already trained and continue to do more training every month.

    When a vehicle responds their are always more vehicles already on the way to offer more backup.

    They have plain clothes units patrolling on foot all the time gathering info. If you have casual laborers on your property they will run background checks on all of them and record their names. Should they have to respond to something they will immediately know who should and who should not be on the property.

    I do take responsibility for my own safety but it is nice to know those are the guys who are on their way to cover my arse if im in over my head.
    I have a training contract with them

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