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    Default Re: The practicality of a scout rifle in South Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by kayaker View Post
    I think a compact .308 (or similar chambering like 7mm-08, .303, 6.5CM etc.) bolt gun with a DBM, low power variable scope and back up iron sights is a very versatile rifle. Having owned and hunted with a Ruger GSR and a 9.3x62 carbine I concluded:

    - a barrel much under 20" is too loud for me, unless you run a suppressor (which i can't do in Canada). 18" is loud! 16" is way too short IMO. 20" is minimum for me, unless its a pistol cartridge, or something like a 7.62x39, .350 Legend, etc..
    - scout scopes do not work for me. In fact I think they are terrible! I would much rather have a compact scope over the action and irons on the barrel, or something like the XS rail if the aesthetics of a long cheese grater on top of the rifle doesn't bother you.
    - One advantage of the scout optic is that you can carry the rifle around the action
    - a forward mounted red-dot might be a nice contemporary alternative to the IER scout scope
    - I like a DBM but a flush or nearly flush mag should be an option. Hunting with a long extended magazine is not ideal for me.
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    How!, How? Did the 6.5 Creed find its way into your statement?

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    Default Re: The practicality of a scout rifle in South Africa.

    " misunderstood"
    live out your imagination , not your history.

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    Default Re: The practicality of a scout rifle in South Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by treeman View Post
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    How!, How? Did the 6.5 Creed find its way into your statement?
    It can do everything Cooper wanted a scout rifle cartridge to do. In one of his initial writings on the scout rifle, Jeff Cooper sited two rifles as his inspiration for the scout project, the .30-30 Winchester mod '94 and the 6.5x54 Mannlicher Schoenauer full stock carbine. Both of the rifles, in these chambering's, came close to what Cooper wanted in a scout rifle.
    The 6.5x54 and the 6.5 Creedmoor deliver very similar ballistics.

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    Default Re: The practicality of a scout rifle in South Africa.

    That dam Creed keeps popping up uninvited at real rifle conversations.

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    Default Re: The practicality of a scout rifle in South Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by treeman View Post
    That dam Creed keeps popping up uninvited at real rifle conversations.
    And yet, some of us have successfully hunted a lot more large antelope with the damn Creed than you have with all of your real rifles put together.

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    Default Re: The practicality of a scout rifle in South Africa.

    Seen this today https://twitter.com/danieldefense/st...mTX06StGAhIdjg

    Delta 5 Pro bolt action CQBA.Don’t know if it will qualify.

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    Default Re: The practicality of a scout rifle in South Africa.

    puke
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    Default Re: The practicality of a scout rifle in South Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by KK20 View Post
    puke

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    Default Re: The practicality of a scout rifle in South Africa.

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    puke
    it’s an April fools post.

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